Two enfield No4's - what's their history?

[H Wally]

Got two enfields recently.
I'm not totally familiar with enfields and am wondering about why there are two different shapes of trigger guard, around the front screw:

Also, can anyone tell me about these markings:

Or these?

 

[Recce21]

Bottom trigger guard is off a No.5 Mk.1 "Jungle Carbine".

I noticed that it is from a "Faz" build Enfield that started life as a No.4 Mk.1 and was upgraded to a No.4 Mk. 1/2. The only change they made was the trigger pivot to the receiver vice the trigger guard on those.

Top enfield looks like a BSA built in 1943 judging on the markings and the broad arrow. Although, it could have a Long Branch safety on it but it is most likely a "B" stamp and not a LB stamp.

 

[JP]

- Maltby 1943

- Royal Ordnance Factory (Fazakerley) BSA dated 1942

 

[woodchopper]

- Maltby 1943

- Royal Ordnance Factory (Fazakerley) BSA dated 1942

the second one has been re-factory rebuilt to the Mk2 standard.

Trigger guard in the wasp waisted later version, saved metal and lighter, you will also notice ther the trigger guard is narrower.

 

[H Wally]

Thanks guys! They're both unfortunate survivors of bubba, but one's restoreable, so it'll get a new set of wood

Just a pity the maltby had its barrel cut - it's in beautiful shape otherwise. Ah well, she'll be sold to pay for the Faz's new clothes

 

[JP]

As noted above, for the Fazakerley you will need a No.4 MK2 type stock, because a standard No.4 MKI stock will not fit without major modification.

 

[Lee Enfield]

As noted above, for the Fazakerley you will need a No.4 MK2 type stock, because a standard No.4 MKI stock will not fit without major modification.

2 types offaz stock

 

[kjohn]

Very nice close-up pics!!