Two iconic German guns from WWII---MG42 and MP44.

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Steyr assembled MP44----old spec deactivation with a moving action.

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MG42- Gustloff assembled in 1943----old spec deactivation with a moving action.





Erma assembled MP44--converted to semi-auto (12-3)



David
 
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Nice guns, I have long said the Germans where masters at pressing steel and fabrication and these two guns show it.
 
Ugly buggers.

They almost have a space age look to them.




I wish I could own them.
 
Thanks for the nice comments.

Some years ago I had the chance to add an MP44 parts kit.
Although I am missing the manual and brush.








Left the K98/MG34/MG42 cartridge---right the MP44 cartridge. 7.92x33mm (KurzPatr43mE)





Both the MG34 and MG42 shown below are Gustloff assembled guns.
The MG34 in 1939...the MG42 in 1943.



David
 
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Beautiful MGs. Thought of what our soldiers must have felt facing them is absolutely terrifying.

I'd give a kidney to run a belt through one of them, or a few mags through a Bren.
 
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yep it used to be fun shooting mine
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flying pig said:
Beautiful MGs. Thought of what our soldiers must have felt facing them is absolutely terrifying.

I'd give a kidney to run a belt through one of them, or a few mags through a Bren.
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they are a surprise to fire....ridiculous fast but very controllable due mainly to the inline stock

had problems with the MG3 in the Leopard 2s....when I had some WW2 non disintegrating belts sent over the problems disappeared...seems they don't like all the link bits piling up too fast from the current NATO belts

WW2 German guns seem to run flawless as long as the bolt-bounce gadget is installed
 
i need one of those bolt bounce thingys ...not that im shooting it anymore but just in case ....never had an issue but mine are ca not fa
 
Thanks for posting your photos Klunk and 36 hamon.
Very nice pieces.

I envy the fact that at one point you had the chance to shoot them....memories of the past I guess.

The MP40 I fired once ....a long time ago....the MP44 ...never.
Both the MP40 and MP44 shown below were Erma assembled....both are converted autos 12(3)
The Erma code on the MP40 is 'ayf' manufactured in 1943.(WaA280)
The code on the MP44 is the late war Erma code 'qlv' E/280--- 1944 dated.



The serial number on the MP44 9532aa/44.



A decent book on this subject.



Barrel markings on the MP40 that are quite clear.



Serial number 9428 U.



428 on the folding stock.






Manufacturers of MP40 magazines,their codes, and common Waffenamt-Marks are indicated below:
-"kur 98e" ,Steyr,Warsaw. WaA815
-"ayf", Erma Werk, WaA280
-"kur",Steyr, WaA815
-"bte", Frankisch Eisenwerk, WaA839,WaA088
-"gqm", Loch & Hartenberger ,WaA164,WaA54,WaA98
-"fxo", Heanel, WaA387,eagle 37
-"122", Haenel (early), WaA280, WaA387, eagle/#37
-"MP41", Haenel, H enclosed in a circle.

This particular magazine was manufactured by Steyr in 1943 ( the 43 indicates the date of manufacture) , their code at that time was "kur", WaA815.








Richard Ehrhardt Lederwarenfabrik,
Possneck, Thuringen.
Manufacturer’s code “bdr” (his code in 1942-1944)
WaA86




David
 
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Klunk said:
I got one of those somewhere....

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carried one of these bad boys in norway on small unit exchange. rechambered to 7.62 NATO. 1 PPCLI B coy in 90 or 92. having hard time remembering early 90s. was a dream to shoot live, accurate but waaayyyy to fast, unless your #2 is built like a truck and can carry as much ammo as one. it didn`t like the plastic norweigian blanks they used, jammed constantly. nice to carry, lighter than C6
 
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