Two stage trigger vs creepy single stage trigger

Milson Wilson

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Why is a two stage trigger considered to be great, while a creepy single stage trigger is rightfully considered to be terrible? From what I've read about two stage triggers, the end result sounds similar.

The closest I've ever come to using a two stage trigger was a Savage AccuTrigger and I hated it.
 
There is a big difference between take-up (first stage of a 2-stage trigger) and creep.
Take up is predictable,repeatable and consistent. Creep is not. With a 2-stage there is a "wall" that is reached when the take up is complete and the second stage is reached. You can feel it, there is no mistaking you are at the second stage. A creepy single stage trigger travels an unpredictable and inconsistent distance before releasing the sear.

Sadly many people who own quality 2-stage triggers do not know how to set them up properly or use them as designed. I have seen guys pull them like a double action trigger on a revolver.

Savage accutrigger is a poor reference if you want to know what a quality 2-stage trigger feels like.
 
My first precision rifle was a TRG 42. I went ahead and purchased a Savage 10TR last fall, so I would have something cheaper to shoot while learning the long range precision stuff. .308 is a lot cheaper than .338 Lapua. Anyhow after having the TRG and shooting it I HATED the accutrigger (still hate it). Its not what I would call a good trigger by any means. Mine likes to in #### the rifle from time to time. I still shoot and plan to continue to shoot the rifle, but have no love for the trigger. If you want to try a good 2 stage get behind a TRG 22 or 42.
 
I have both, and like both - the 2 stage took some getting used to, but after you pop a few rounds off, you get the feel of it real quick.
Also agree about the accutrigger - not for me. In my opinion, its too 'loose' feeling at takeup
 
Very easy to beat a single stage trigger when you have a minimum trigger weight rule. The 2 stage lets you split up the pull into two parts and distribute the pull weight however you like. Even though the overall trigger weight is the same, your sensory feedback only registers changes in force. So, when you break the shot, it only feels like you're only pulling the second stage adder. So, you can make a 2.5 lb trigger feel like a 10 oz. trigger if you like, but it will still be able to pick up a 1 kg trigger weight, for example.

In a 2 stage trigger, the sear is also blocked until you pull through the first stage. Its an added level of safety. That isn't the case with the creep in the single stage trigger unless you have a mechanism like in the Accutrigger. Most competition single stage triggers do not have that and will not pass drop test.
 
I will not own a gun (rifle) that does not have a 2 stage trigger.

X2 on what a poster above says - TRG triggers are awesome. So are AI triggers but the TRG does have the edge.
 
Got used to the TRG 2 stage with the clean take up, wall, crisp break.

Trying to get use to the SRS-A1 trigger. Initally remove all the creep but miss that 2 stage take up; readjust with bit of creep to simulate 2 stage. Need more trigger time to decide if I like the creep. Wish the SRS had the TRG trigger.
 
Well I guess I am the only accu-trigger fan here...lol

I shot for the first time an accu-trigger rifle and was impressed because it was like the Enfield two-stage trigger I know very well. Well after that I got a few savage rifles with accu-triggers and the only trigger I replaced after buying accu triggers was Remington 700 (80's vintage) and I put a Timney 2 stage trigger on it. The Timney is way better than the Savage Accu-trigger but I still prefer either over a single stage.

The only single stage I do like is on an old Savage 22 I have (1930's vintage) and it is single stage and very nice. I won't be selling that rifle ever. Tru story.

I'd say it is personal preference.
 
Love my Jewell and 40x single triggers. I like single and double, but I consider accutriggers a single stage. The accutrigger safety trigger blade is a bolt on doodad that I never think of as part of the trigger because it is a seperate blade that moves more or less independantly.

Either way, single or double or SST, what matters is the release stage. Crisp with no creep and little overtravel and Im happy.
 
Ryan.M.Anderson said:
I will not own a gun (rifle) that does not have a 2 stage trigger.

X2 on what a poster above says - TRG triggers are awesome. So are AI triggers but the TRG does have the edge.
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Agreed except in my experience the other way round. Love trg triggers. Love the ai triggers a little bit more.
 
I have Barnard 2 stage target trigger on my Tikka 585 308win Varmit, improved my trigger control immensely!
My Sig STR 200 factory 2stage is almost as good ad the Barnard.
I seem to shoot better groups with the take up of a two stage, I have jewel triggers that are great but take more concentration to let off smoothly.
Just my 2 cents?
Winchester pre and post 64 Model 70 stock target triggers are also a favorite single stage trigger, break like glass with no effort!
Dale Z
 
All my full bore match rifles have single stage triggers , one a Savage (non Accutrigger)two Canjar triggers and a Timney(which replaced an accutrigger ). All break at 2.2 pounds perfectly .
The tuned trigger on my Longbrach service rifle makes an Accutrigger feel like a rubber band
Cat
 
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i really like 2 stage triggers. thinking to replace my remington 700 trigger with a timney 2 stage unless i can find a cheaper one. hoping it feels as good or even better than my m1a trigger!
 
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