Type 81 bolt carrier mushrooming

Son of a ##### there is some rust on the side of my receiver as well right under the plate. It's not pitted or anything so I'm not sure if it's worth worrying about but that's still a piss off.

from the first shipment nothing but the second same as you... sign of rust in the oil but no pitting.

now im wondering if i bought mine a few months from now, it would be pitted for sure. damn, luck i bought mine now.
 
from the first shipment nothing but the second same as you... sign of rust in the oil but no pitting.

now im wondering if i bought mine a few months from now, it would be pitted for sure. damn, luck i bought mine now.

What I said, first shipment was fine, especially the blued ones. The latest one was a phosphate I got and I am glad I sold it quickly (locally, so don't feel shame).

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We gotta hold retailers and manufacturers to standards above BS. If we become complacent with BS, the companys wont hesitate to provide us with BS.

Granted TI could have did a better job with communicating and managing consumer expectations, but owners of these rifles need to understand that they are buying rifles made by the same people that produce the cheapest “new” AKs in the world at the moment. They are specifically made to a low price-point to attract various countries’ procurement programs/people. And in order to be the lowest cost, trade-offs have to be made in the quality of the rifle. According to kalashnikov experts, newly made Chinese AKs are the lowest quality of AKs in the world, save for Ethiopian made AKs. I’d expect type 81s to be much the same with regards to their price/quality.

Simply speaking, purchasers of these rifles should have very low expectations.
 
Granted TI could have did a better job with communicating and managing consumer expectations, but owners of these rifles need to understand that they are buying rifles made by the same people that produce the cheapest “new” AKs in the world at the moment. They are specifically made to a low price-point to attract various countries’ procurement programs/people. And in order to be the lowest cost, trade-offs have to be made in the quality of the rifle. According to kalashnikov experts, newly made Chinese AKs are the lowest quality of AKs in the world, save for Ethiopian made AKs. I’d expect type 81s to be much the same with regards to their price/quality.

Simply speaking, purchasers of these rifles should have very low expectations.

I mostly agree, however we didnt pay a premium to receive rust, pitting, loose trunnion rivets and worn down parts. We payed for new production Type 81SA's. Not surplus.
 
I mostly agree, however we didnt pay a premium to receive rust, pitting, loose trunnion rivets and worn down parts. We payed for new production Type 81SA's. Not surplus.

I'm not defending TI in the least here, but not sure what you mean by paying a premium? The below video should be a must-watch for anyone wanting to purchase any Type 81 (although, it is heavily biased so definitely take it with a grain of salt). But rust, pitting, loose rivets, poorly fitting parts, bent guns, etc. are not limited to used/surplus Type 81s. Again, TI should have inspected all the rifles and communicated what buyers should expect to receive.

 
Paying $1610 bucks for a gun i think most can soundly say cost far less then a $1000 over in China. Id call that a Premium. Poorly fitted parts, misaligned parts, poorly machined parts and mismatched stains i can agree are all characteristics of a mass produced Type 81. But rust, and pitted parts.... not so much, the Russian doesn't mention that either i believe in the Video. They didnt rust in the factory. Somebody f'ed up in the storage department. Id like to think the Chinese mil spec doesnt accommodate loose revits either. But its hard to know. Id love to see a credible and un biased veteran who served with Type 81-1s chime in on the topic of QC, performance and build quality. But so far all ive heard and received is propaganda.
 
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