Type 88 vs Tavor
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Well the type 88 (QBU-88) purpose is a sniper rifle the Tavor is a up and go assault rifle built for speed and balance.
Not really the same thing so not too sure on what you want us to compare.
Did you mean to say type 97?
Not really the same thing so not too sure on what you want us to compare.
Did you mean to say type 97?
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The Type-88 is a DMR, "Designated Marksman Rifle". It serves the same area that the Russian SVD does. It isn't a sniper rifle.
To add to the thread, one is an "Assault Rifle" which is designed for closer quarters combat and urban scenarios, while the Type-88 is a DMR designed for ranges from 100-600, and out to 800 meters.
They are two different animals. Personally I would go with the Type-88, simply because would suit what I am looking for, but I'm sure TV-PressPass would suggest the Tavor.
It's all in your preference.
FYI: The Type-88 is basically untested and has zero Youtube videos, besides Chinese training vids and Battlefield 3 players, so keep in mind there is little information on the rifle right now. On here there are some text reviews, but pictures and videos are worth far more.
If you do buy the Type-88, please put up some videos if you are willing.
Your comparing apples to oranges.
As stated above, I'll add some more, the lineage of the type 88 isn't the 97, vice versa, its actually based loosely on the Dragonuv actions, but build around the Chinese 6mm uber bullet. I'm curious as to the type 88's action with the North American bastardization into 556, I almost bought to find out.
Where's the tavor was a rifle built from the ground up with 2 things in mind; urban operations and training for conscripts. As the sight was originally designed to be integrated onto the barrel and into the bore axis preventing having to re sight the weapon periodically because the soldier couldn't remove it and less maintenance.
The best: that's opinion based but I think they each fill their role nicely.
As stated above, I'll add some more, the lineage of the type 88 isn't the 97, vice versa, its actually based loosely on the Dragonuv actions, but build around the Chinese 6mm uber bullet. I'm curious as to the type 88's action with the North American bastardization into 556, I almost bought to find out.
Where's the tavor was a rifle built from the ground up with 2 things in mind; urban operations and training for conscripts. As the sight was originally designed to be integrated onto the barrel and into the bore axis preventing having to re sight the weapon periodically because the soldier couldn't remove it and less maintenance.
The best: that's opinion based but I think they each fill their role nicely.
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I am still interested in doing a video introduction of the T-88 if anyone in greater Vancouver wants to get together with me.
It would be for my Youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/user/StraightShootingTalk/videos
I'd go tavor for a on the go rifle, and sg542 for a .308 heavy.
Can't go wrong, and you don't have to worry about Chinese steel quality and build issues blah blah. Personally I wouldn't be putting 2500$ on something Chinese.
Yes the 542 is Chilean but it's built to SIG specs. Can't ever go wrong with a sig.
Tavor is a serious rifle for a serious purpose for troops that actually shoot at people shooting back every single day.
Can't go wrong, and you don't have to worry about Chinese steel quality and build issues blah blah. Personally I wouldn't be putting 2500$ on something Chinese.
Yes the 542 is Chilean but it's built to SIG specs. Can't ever go wrong with a sig.
Tavor is a serious rifle for a serious purpose for troops that actually shoot at people shooting back every single day.
Type 88 isn't a very good gun.
I read some thing wrote by Chinese solider complaints about how bad it is
(Of course in Chinese). It's a DMR but in the PRC army they call it the type88 "shotgun" because its very un-accurate
They said they keep one completed type 88 without scope and bipod take off at the aromry for the show when the higher ranking officer come to visit.
I can post the link of the article but its all in Chinese
I read some thing wrote by Chinese solider complaints about how bad it is
(Of course in Chinese). It's a DMR but in the PRC army they call it the type88 "shotgun" because its very un-accurate
They said they keep one completed type 88 without scope and bipod take off at the aromry for the show when the higher ranking officer come to visit.
I can post the link of the article but its all in Chinese
This is exactly the same as the Swiss Arms or Tavor threads. Providing the Swiss Arms stays non restricted that would be the one I would be looking at. As already mentioned two different purposes between these rifles. You'll end up buying both eventually.
I've read it. If you have ever seen the magazine (or the subsequent re-posting online), it was an anti-government publication which was shut down ~2008. This article was actually written in contrast to a propaganda piece which praised the 88 as the best sniper rifle in the world (which I believe came out in 2001). Both are inaccurate, but "The West" and anti-Chinese nations have picked up on the former since it's easy to demonize something that isn't well known.
The best article I've read (which seems completely unbiased) is an internal military/police review of two type 88's which were used for testing over a period of 4 weeks in 2003. This article was the one which the Chinese used to create their new line of bolt actions, since the comparisons of the 88 were being made to the M24 et. al. of the US arsenal -- which is quite a hard comparison to make (semi vs. bolt).
Simply put, the 88 was found to be more accurate, easier to maneuver and fire with, train on, and assemble/disassemble than its predecessor (Type 85.. the Dragunov, not the SMG). They found the two weak-links of the platform were the ammunition and the bipod. The only ammunition they had was common off-the-shelf 5.8mm, and they believed that a specific 'sniper' round was needed for extended distances past 300m (which they now have) since environmental factors played a greater role in accuracy at distance (just like the 5.56 vs 7.62 debate). They also felt that the 88 suffered greatly from POI shift due to the barrel-mounted bipod, of which this was their harshest criticism. This of course is expected.
Additional recommendations were that they also wanted the 88 to receive a new pistol grip (not done), a dedicated silence for the unit (now available), a scope with more magnification for police units (which they have done), a rear monopod for resting the rifle (not done), and to have the selector moved from the bottom of the rifle to the side (not done). They also had some problems with the flashhider being a bit too thin and thus deforming if banged around, a minor issue with the scope rubber breaking over time, and wanted the scope to have a more commonly-used off-the-shelf battery. Of course, these sound more like general complaints from the police/soldiers rather than what was found over the 4-week period.
However, when comparing to the Tavor, it's truly apples and oranges.
If I can find an online copy of the memo (it's about 5 pages in length, mine is just notes taken from a hardcopy I received) I'll post it on here (if there is a translation).
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Now I drive a Nissan GTR still AWD V6 Twin Turbo
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I would love to see you be the guinea pig and buy a type 88. Take one for the Team. Seriously you should wait for the Type 97 it is cheaper and if the new ones are as accurate as the old ones were they could be used as a designated marksman rifle. Dr. lector was getting 10 round sub moa groups with his restricted one and a 20X scope. I have put my 36X target scope on my Tavor and it is only capable of 1.75 MOA with hand loads, I tried American eagle and that was giving me about 3 moa and I shot a lot of norinco and that was about 4 MOA. My point is the old type 97 restricted was way more accurate then my Tavor. The ergonomics of it were worse, but accuracy was better. The type 88, nobody really knows anything and if they do they are not sharing. The only ones that are sharing are those who are trying to sell their rifle or probably friends of those trying to sell one.
