Uberti 1860 Colt Army

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I got a Uberti 1860 Colt Army (steel frame) not too long ago and while it is great fun to shoot BP I'd heard a great deal about cartridge conversions.

I researched both the R&D and Kirst conversion cylinders and decided on the Kirst because it offered a gated conversion without the gunsmithing and milling the R&D required for their gated version.

The Kirst unit would only allow me to shoot .45 Schofield but I figured what the hell, I can also shoot Schofield in my 1873 Cattleman 45 Colt.

The conversion kit arrived and assembled quickly and easily. I was really impressed with the fit and finish until I realized that even with the gate you still had to remove the cylinder to load it. Oh well, it still looks great I thought.

One other problem was soon evident. When cocking the revolver it stopped about 1/32" short of full battery. Somewhat perplexed, I got ahold of VTI gun parts' smith and we determined that the hand was a little too short to completely rotate the cylinder. It seems the newer Uberti BP revolvers had a shorter hand installed so I had 2 options. I could stretch the hand or order a new one that was a bit longer. I did both.

Stretching the hand is easy enough to do if you take your time and don't work the same area too much because it may "work harden" and break. I had a good idea of how much stretch it needed and went to work. It involved diassembly of the revolver and removing the hammer/hand assembly. Laying the hand on its side with the stud facing up, I used the side of a 3/16" punch and hammered the side of the hand with it. I only need about 1/32" of stretch and when I thought I had enough I reassembled the revolver. Holy Hannah, first try and it lock right into battery.

I kept the measurements I made and sure enough when the new hand arrived it matched the one I had just stretched.

While I bought the gated conversion for what I thought may be a convenience, it also required me to find a source of .45 Schofield ammo. Not easy to do in Canada.

Although I am quite satisfied with the Kirst the next conversion cylinder I buy will more than likely be a not quite so expensive R&D 45 Long Colt unit.

Here's some pics.

The Kirst Cartridge Konverter before assembly
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Assmbled
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Gate closed
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Gate opened
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If you don't mind my asking where did you get the kit? Also, the ultramax ammo? Is it all available in Canada? Are you shooting smokeless loads at all?
Sorry for all the questions... :wave:
 
get that repro milled for the gate,you'll be mighty happy I'm bettin.
I'm thinking the same thing:D

I had planned on doing so and after another discussion with the VTI smith I decided it was something I could do myself with the tools I have.

I'm going to take pics and document every step of the way which I will post later. According to the smith it will probably take two to 3 hours to milll and then I'll use a cold blueing method to try and match the color case hardening.
 
whered you get the convertor? I need to get one for my 1860 army too, getting twitchy to try one out.
 
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