was out to the trap and skeet club for the first time since October, and it showed. i was planning on shooting trap, which i like and do pretty good at, but the trap machines don't work to well in the winter, so only skeet was available. out of two rounds i broke only 2 targets.was shooting with the club president and a number of other "old hands" so i got a lot of helpful tips and instruction. one of which the stock on my Auto 5 is too short, which i found od. i always felt like it fit mer very well, but a number of experianced shooters said it since i'm a big guy it should be at least 2 inches longer. it's LOP is 14", don't know where i would find longer stock without having one custom made. not my best day out, but there are worse ways to spend a Sunday afternoon.
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(sigh)...There is a lot of misinformed bull#### passed around on skeet ranges by the "old hands." Not even the best stockmaker can judge a person's best LOP just be looking at them and 16" is a very long stock.
You might need some extra length but don't go out and buy another stock right away. There are various slip-on pads on the market that will give you the extra length without the expense. If you need more length you could have a smith put on a thicker recoil pad or even a wood extension.
But if the gun is shooting where you are looking (determined by patterning), your rear hand isn't banging into your nose or your face being slapped under recoil then adding 2" to the stock isn't going to do much for you and could make the gun shoot worse for you.
You might need some extra length but don't go out and buy another stock right away. There are various slip-on pads on the market that will give you the extra length without the expense. If you need more length you could have a smith put on a thicker recoil pad or even a wood extension.
But if the gun is shooting where you are looking (determined by patterning), your rear hand isn't banging into your nose or your face being slapped under recoil then adding 2" to the stock isn't going to do much for you and could make the gun shoot worse for you.
Seems to be a universal truth at every club; People giving advice who shouldn't be.......
Try and find someone you trust, who knows what they are talking about (easier said than done). I was very fortunate when i started that I hooked up with the right people who gave me the correct information (and I then just politely ignored the other).
Brad.
Try and find someone you trust, who knows what they are talking about (easier said than done). I was very fortunate when i started that I hooked up with the right people who gave me the correct information (and I then just politely ignored the other).
Brad.
Too much info from too many people in too short a time(round of Skeet). Common problem when a new shooter shows up on the range. The old hands are just sooo eager to share their experiences and they truly want the newbe to have a good time. Can be a bit overwhelming. Best bet is to read up on the game and view a video or two. Next time you visit the range try to get on a squad with just a couple of shooters. Our range has a policy that all new shooters must go out with 1 RO and shoot an introductory round with most birds coming from stations 1,2,6 & 7.During the round the RO explains all the aspects of Skeet shooting and summerizes the rules.The newbe must score 10 for 25 before being allowed to join a regular squad. Repeat the round until 10 clays are busted.
Hey Kevin,
Sorry to hear you got out . . . well, we've all been there. Anyway, how many extra layers of clothing were you wearing on Sunday? That would have screwed anybody up totally. Don't worry about it for now. Wait for warmer weather and fewer heavy clothes, you'll be fine.
Sorry to hear you got out . . . well, we've all been there. Anyway, how many extra layers of clothing were you wearing on Sunday? That would have screwed anybody up totally. Don't worry about it for now. Wait for warmer weather and fewer heavy clothes, you'll be fine.
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Pick "one" Coach ... who is a very good shooter, calm, easy going and can explain things in common logical sense. Someone who looks like they make the game really easy and consistantly shoots top scores - generally has things figured out. Stick with them for coaching. After you've shot say five or six flats of shells, regularly, at skeet, with good coaching, and you've got your scores up into the high teens or low twenties, with some good reliable advice, you may be ready for a stock alteration or two ! Don't do anything "permanent" in the way of stock fit until you've shot it "as modified" a bunch, and are sure it helps. Way to many "stock butchers" and "Frankenstocks" out there.
A couple of guys I know that are 6-6" and 6-8" use 15+ & 16" length of pulls. A best bud at 6-3" likes his right at 15.
At 6 even, mine are 14 -3/8" ... but it isn't only your height - you want the stock comfortable - neither bumping your nose with your thumb knuckle under recoil because it's too short, nor so long you cant mount the gun consistantly under actual shooting conditions, without getting it caught under your arm or hung up in your clothing.
Try and get some good advice from one of the consistantly top shooters.
Have a good look at the distance between his fingertips (when wrapped around the pistol grip) and his nose, when his gun is mounted and he's shooting. Generally, this distance will be some 2" to 3" or say, 2 to 3 "finger widths" for most people. Some good instruction and lots of practice in gun mounting and actual shooting will help.
It's those "damn crossers" that will help teach you how to swing a shotgun smoothly and follow through !!!! Great lessons to learn well . Enjoy, and shoot LOTS - that first 25 straight is only a few months away !
A couple of guys I know that are 6-6" and 6-8" use 15+ & 16" length of pulls. A best bud at 6-3" likes his right at 15.
At 6 even, mine are 14 -3/8" ... but it isn't only your height - you want the stock comfortable - neither bumping your nose with your thumb knuckle under recoil because it's too short, nor so long you cant mount the gun consistantly under actual shooting conditions, without getting it caught under your arm or hung up in your clothing.
Try and get some good advice from one of the consistantly top shooters.
Have a good look at the distance between his fingertips (when wrapped around the pistol grip) and his nose, when his gun is mounted and he's shooting. Generally, this distance will be some 2" to 3" or say, 2 to 3 "finger widths" for most people. Some good instruction and lots of practice in gun mounting and actual shooting will help.
It's those "damn crossers" that will help teach you how to swing a shotgun smoothly and follow through !!!! Great lessons to learn well . Enjoy, and shoot LOTS - that first 25 straight is only a few months away !
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If you find that you actually do need a longer stock(16" is a really long LOP)you dont need to spend big bucks on a custom stock.You simply make a spacer out of wood or plexi to put between the stock and the recoil pad and there you have it.A cheap($2) fix that isn't permanent.
Dave
Dave
