unfired brazilians do i pull the trigger?

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so i have come across a pair of 1935 brazilians unfired in grease with all the matching factory goodies (bayonet, test target, muzzle cap etc) and i desperately want one but for one catch. i cant afford it. usually i would just chalk it up as a loss for me and leave it at that except that a friend has offered to loan me the money to buy one to sell and use the profits to put me into my price range. what i cant figure out is if the guns are worth as much as he thinks they are. i would think a good price to move would be around 1200 bucks but he thinks that on the EE i should charge more. what do i do! :runaway:
 
A 1935 is around $1200 as you guess. Maybe a hair more if it has all the accessories, original factory target, matching bayo, etc. So maybe $1400 or so. These are NOT fast movers though - you need to find a south american mauser collector who doesn't already have one - could take a few weeks on the EE.

Of course, for a cheaper price, it will sell faster.
 
Apparently they go for ~1500 nowadays with all the goodies.
Worth every penny IMHO, especially if you compare them to the beat up K98s selling for much more.
I am not sure how it happened, but there are three of those in my safe.
 
My first question with something that old and unused, is what is wrong with them, to much for the risk
 
Ask him why he doesn't sell it on the EE if he thinks it will move fast at that price. 1200$ I say would be fair, you could likely ask a little more but it would likely take longer to sell.

I thought the 1908 was going for that price. So if the 35 is in that ballpark, where is the price point for a 08?

From what I have seen, the same, people aren't buying them because of the model, rather the condition.
 
My first question with something that old and unused, is what is wrong with them, to much for the risk

There were crates and crates of these brand new rifles; I bought one around 1980 for $65.00; covered in grease, wrapped in greasy brown wax paper. I sporterized it:bangHead::bangHead:f:P:f:P:

Regardless, it is still one of the most accurate, best shooters I own. The receiver with the engraved crest is a thing of beauty; mine has holes in it for the scope mounts... who knew??

If I had the disposable income, I would buy them; no question.
 
There were crates and crates of these brand new rifles; I bought one around 1980 for $65.00; covered in grease, wrapped in greasy brown wax paper. I sporterized it:bangHead::bangHead:f:P:f:P:

Regardless, it is still one of the most accurate, best shooters I own. The receiver with the engraved crest is a thing of beauty; mine has holes in it for the scope mounts... who knew??

If I had the disposable income, I would buy them; no question.

Sorry, mine is an 08.
 
There were crates and crates of these brand new rifles; I bought one around 1980 for $65.00; covered in grease, wrapped in greasy brown wax paper. I sporterized it:bangHead::bangHead:f:P:f:P:

Regardless, it is still one of the most accurate, best shooters I own. The receiver with the engraved crest is a thing of beauty; mine has holes in it for the scope mounts... who knew??

If I had the disposable income, I would buy them; no question.

Sorry, mine is an 08.
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The receiver with the engraved crest is a thing of beauty

I almost bought a very nice one last year simply because of the engraved crest (and a fairly decent price, though it didn't have all of the accessories). I am really kicking myself for not -- I had so many Mausers that I decided I didn't want another one. Of course, what do I do just today? Buy an Carl Gustav M96.
 
I remember in 1977 the SIR mail order co. had the 1908 models for $159.95 but even though I lusted for a 7m Mauser, mostly for hunting, I just couldn't afford it at the time. I was 24, had a wife and a one-year-old daughter, we had just bought 10 acres and were clearing land and saving money for a house. Besides, I had two rifles. What did I need another one for?

Not being talented in that dept., I probably wouldn't have sporterized it, but I sure as heck would have bashed it about hunting.
 
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My first question with something that old and unused, is what is wrong with them, to much for the risk

There is no risk. You should be able to get what you paid for it at any time unless you're desperate for a sale. I see guys on a regular basis that will purchase something minty, take it out and shoot it, don't clean it properly and snivel when they try to sell it off a few months later for a quick profit and it won't sell for what they're asking. Had one fellow get very upset with me on a rifle he had done just that with and tried for a quick flip because his interests had changed.

Once you clean out the grease, shoot them etc they are no longer mint/unissued. They are now USED/unissued specimens. You pay the big dollar for that grease in the rifle and sometimes the wrapping. Take it out of the wrap, clean off the grease and you're throwing money into the garbage can.

When you're buying a collectible of any sort, don't try to make it better or use it an pass it off as unused. Most astute collectors will pick up on that instantly and likely walk away from the vendor because of a non trust issue. I know I will.

Complete, unissued, in the grease with all matching accessories M1935 Brazilian Mausers will fetch $1500 every day. They have been in that range for a couple of years now. Milsurps have had a rapid increase in price over the past five years. Some people feel they have topped and will go sideways for the next five years. Some people feel the top is a long way off. It's a toss up who's right.

IMHO it's sideways from here for the next few years at least. Some of this will depend on upcoming Liberal firearms policies and manipulations by their bureaucrats.

The 1908 Brazilian Mausers are smoother to operate but don't seem to command a higher price.

South American Mausers are very under appreciated. They are the Rodney Dangerfields' of the Mauser collectors market but that is changing. The rifles were mostly made in Germany or Belgium and many have seen a lot of action in hundreds of unknown South American conflicts. Their time is coming. Usually, the South American Mausers are in better condition than the European offerings at this point.

OP, if you are looking for a shooter rather than a collectible, don't purchase either of the rifles you mention. Look for a lesser grade at half or less than half the price with an excellent bore.

South American Mausers in their original chamberings are usually 7.65 Argenine or 7x57 Mauser. Some later models were chambered in 30-06 and 7.62x51 Nato. Very early rifles were chambered in just about any common European offering but are often black powder cartridges.

Do more due diligence than the comments here. Google is your friend.
 
Something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The market decides.

Whodathunk that a Colt Python could command $4000? I've owned one and found it to be a problematic gun to load for due to the tight bore and chambers. Rounds that my S&W .357s digested would not chamber in the Python, and if they did, exhibited signs of high pressure. I had to load in separate batches.

Only guy I knew who was happy with one had it tuned for PPC and shot nothing but .38 HBWCs.

Same for M1 Garands. Some of us remember the time you couldn't give one away. Now they go for $1500. Most I ever paid for one was $250 and it came with a bandolier of ammo.
 
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