Unissued Brazilian Mauser value?

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I have a chance to purchase a mint, unissued Brazilian Mauser in the original 7x57mm caliber, all matching numbers, including the bayonet. According to the past owner, he bought it in 1993 still in the wrap, cleaned it up and fired 20 rounds through it (grouped extremely well), and then it was a safe queen ever since. I am not really sure of the value of this rifle (nor is the owner), so I am wondering if any Mauser guys can give an estimate of it's fair market value?
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Its a Brazilian Model 1908. Lever Arms imported them in the mid 70's. They were never "in the wrap", they came in sealed zinc lined crates. Absolutely beautiful rifles. I've seen well used Brazilian Model 1908 rifles without the accessories go for $700 to $850. IMHO this one is worth over $1000.
 
Most (I know of three) people who sold rifles like yours ask between $1200 and $1500, then sell for $1000-$1100
 
This is one of the very finest milsurp rifles on the market.
IMHO all these South American Mausers are way unterevaluated, if you compare them to let's say a K98 or a Garand.
I own several of those, and the fit finish and overall workmanship is just incredible, so much better than anything else.
Once you handle and shoot one of these Mausers, you will be hooked.
 
Its a Brazilian Model 1908. Lever Arms imported them in the mid 70's. They were never "in the wrap", they came in sealed zinc lined crates. Absolutely beautiful rifles. I've seen well used Brazilian Model 1908 rifles without the accessories go for $700 to $850. IMHO this one is worth over $1000.

Not all of them came in Zinc lined crates. Some came in regular wooden crates and were wrapped. It just depends which batch you are talking about. I opened some of those boxes by the way.

You are right though, some of them did come in Zinc lined crates, all covered in a light colored cosmoline, in a plastic wrapper that was often not in very good shape. Those rifles were things of beauty. I have one of each, the 1908 and the 1935 in cosmo in my safe, with matching bayonets. Neither has a factory target. To bad. The 1935 came with one that crumbled away and was not savable.

I wouldn't sell either of them for $1000.

One thing about the Brazilian Mausers, specifications were strictly controlled in their manufacture. You can set a micrometer by the parts. I have picked up almost every chopped one I come across. The chambers in all of them are identical. I can't measure any difference between the chambers in the 1908 or 1935 rifles. One die setting will cover all of them.
 
Not all of them came in Zinc lined crates. Some came in regular wooden crates and were wrapped. It just depends which batch you are talking about. I opened some of those boxes by the way.

You are right though, some of them did come in Zinc lined crates, all covered in a light colored cosmoline, in a plastic wrapper that was often not in very good shape. Those rifles were things of beauty. I have one of each, the 1908 and the 1935 in cosmo in my safe, with matching bayonets. Neither has a factory target. To bad. The 1935 came with one that crumbled away and was not savable.

I wouldn't sell either of them for $1000.


One thing about the Brazilian Mausers, specifications were strictly controlled in their manufacture. You can set a micrometer by the parts. I have picked up almost every chopped one I come across. The chambers in all of them are identical. I can't measure any difference between the chambers in the 1908 or 1935 rifles. One die setting will cover all of them.

Aren't those part of what is called the Lost Shipment or something along that line? ;)


Grizz
 
What Alan Lever told me when I bought mine was that they had just been sitting un-issued, still in original crates in a Brazilian armory until he found and bought them. I've never hear anything about a "Lost Shipment".
 
Aren't those part of what is called the Lost Shipment or something along that line? ;)


Grizz

I haven't heard them called that before. Some friends in Brazil tell me a few thousand of them went to the Mannesman smelters last fall. All brand new. They didn't even bother to take them out of the crates. They just set the piles on fire and then picked up all of the metal with a magnet on the front of a crane. They did the same with even more worn out rifles and other arms. I guess, it is a common occurrence.

Somehow, there isn't enough Baksheesh being paid and they are following the UN agenda instead. Release of those firearms would put a pretty penny into some bureaucrats pockets. Someone is missing a good bet. Either that, or they are scared.
 
Not only the Mausers but also M1s, Garands, and Thompsons all had the same destination. As a Brazilian I am sad and ashamed but that's what happens when we don't know how to use our vote.
 
These came with the 1937 dated factory target with 3 shots thru it. Its nice to see the cleaning rod and muzle cap is still there. mines missing both of those.
 
Not only the Mausers but also M1s, Garands, and Thompsons all had the same destination. As a Brazilian I am sad and ashamed but that's what happens when we don't know how to use our vote.

Eduardo, Brazil is beautiful and has some of the most lovely women in the world. It is a true melting pot of different nationalities. It is the only place in the world, where I have seen a dozen different language newspapers and magazines in small shops, along the Amazon or in the jungle villages. Fantastic people as well. Loved Carnival.

Rio, is huge and sprawling, Belo Horizonte' is industrious and bustling. The iron ore is so pure it can be picked up with a magnet. Incredible.

They mentioned the other firearms as well. Another thing they mentioned, was that other nearby nations, without smelting facilities, send their arms to be smelted down as well. Everything that was ever sold in South America, other than Argentina, head for those smelters.

It won't be long before there won't be any of those fabulous Mausers available to the North American markets any longer.

I'm really surprised that entrepreneurs like Century International aren't approaching them to be allowed to strip the rifles for salvageable parts???

Could it be that Obama's government is purchasing all of those arms outright and selling them or giving them to Mannesman at scrap prices, to keep them offshore or just to destroy them???

Brazilian and US ties are pretty close these days.
 
These came with the 1937 dated factory target with 3 shots thru it. Its nice to see the cleaning rod and muzle cap is still there. mines missing both of those.

Brazil, didn't receive all of the rifles at one time. They trickled in over many years. From 1890s to mid WWII. Maybe, even after.

Mind you, they had agreements with the US, to purchase US made equipment and arms. It wasn't until the early sixties, that Itajuba factory started to manufacture as well as convert firearms.
 
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