Universal M1 Carbine

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This is supposed to be a Canadian issue M1 Carbine with an original 5 shot mag. I also have a cotton bandolier for 5 shot mags.

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Enjoy,

Henry;)
 
Canadian issue to whom? Police maybe?

The Canadian military did not issue m1 carbines as far as I know and universal carbines are post war commercial versions of the military guns.

It's not the most collectable of the carbines but it looks to be in good shape. It should be a good shooter.
 
Universal made commercial M1 carbines. LEO somewhere mght have used them, but definatey not issued to any canadian military.
 
Our boys did use M1 carbine during the Korea war. Here's a pictue

http://bcoy1cpb.pacdat.net/Korea_-_Pte_Heath_Matthews_2_RCR_WIA.jpg

Pte. Heath Mathews was a signaller with "C" Coy of the 1st Bn. The Royal Canadian Regiment. He was wounded during a company strength raid on an enemy position the night of 22 June 1952. The proper credit for the photo is; National Archives of Canada Photograph PA 128850 by Paul J. Tomelin.
 
Universal Firearms started out in

1950 as Bullseye

1983 Iver Johnson bought it

1987 bought by American Military arms Corp.

I had one that was 1970's made, no USGI parts I tried would fit.
This included the bayonet lug & the top forearm cover, & stock.
The charge handles are also very different.

One of the biggest problems with the Universal's is that some of them fire out of battery. If this happens the bolt exits the action in a violent fashion. This is due to some machining not done correctly.

To test it, chamber a snap cap
Retract the charge handle so that the bolt rotates to unlock the locking lugs, but the bolt doesn't retract.
Pull the trigger.
If it fires you have a problem.
If it doesn't fire, repeat the prosess with the charge handle retracted a little less each time. It shouldn't fire untill the handle is fully forward.
 
jeepingpw said:
Universal Firearms started out in

1950 as Bullseye

1983 Iver Johnson bought it

1987 bought by American Military arms Corp.

I had one that was 1970's made, no USGI parts I tried would fit.
This included the bayonet lug & the top forearm cover, & stock.
The charge handles are also very different.

One of the biggest problems with the Universal's is that some of them fire out of battery. If this happens the bolt exits the action in a violent fashion. This is due to some machining not done correctly.

To test it, chamber a snap cap
Retract the charge handle so that the bolt rotates to unlock the locking lugs, but the bolt doesn't retract.
Pull the trigger.
If it fires you have a problem.
If it doesn't fire, repeat the prosess with the charge handle retracted a little less each time. It shouldn't fire untill the handle is fully forward.
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The trigger group is one piece, and will fire even when removed form the rifle. What prevents an out of battery detonation in the M1 Carbine (and M1 Garand, M14) is the receiver bridge. There is a little cut out that lines up with the rear tail of the firing pin when the bolt is in battery. If the bolt is not locked, the hammer will still fall, but the firing pin will be blocked.
Early Universal's like the one pictured, are USGI clones, and everything USGI will fit. It's probably built mostly from USGI parts. I have one as well, and it's all USGI except for the barrel and receiver. The barrel is unusual in it appears to be made by Marlin as it has 12 grooves. The early ones are decent, the late model one with the proprietary op rod and 2 recoil springs are pretty crappy.
 
"...he brought it home with him..." CF troopies have never been allowed to keep any weapon they were issued. A Korean vintage M2 is/was an automatic weapon. Wouldn't have been allowed in the country. Your uncle might have had an M2 marked semi-auto though.
CF Korean War troopies trained with American made weapons. Then used Canadian issue kit in Korea. Mind you, at Kap Yong, 2PPCLI had a bunch of M1 and M2 carbines dropped to them while they were stopping the Chicom advance.
"...no USGI parts I tried would fit..." Likely a 'late' model Universal. No milsurp parts except mags work in them. The poorly made op handles tend to break too.
 
well, i guess you know it all to. it WAS an M2. saw it with my own eyes. dunno about being issued with it, but he brought it back with him from korea after his tour.obviously the powers that be didnt know he brought it home with him. its still in the perry sound area,as a matter of fact
 
to be fair Beater said his uncle carried the rifle, not that it was issued to him. I know form a few old timers around here that quite a few souvenirs came back from overseas. I know of one Korean vintage 1911 that one lucky guy has.

As long as it wasn't issued kit they probably wouldn't be looking too hard.

If it was a f/a m2 it would be pretty desirable today. There can't be too many of those around.
 
I believe you 100% Beater. I've seen a few "items" myself personally that were snuck into the country by returning vets that I won't get into listing on this thread. I don't know many vets but the few I know tried their darndest to sneak something back. Some succeeded.
Al
 
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lots and lots of stuff came back. it is an M2. he took it apart and took the selector out of it so it couldnt be set to FA. still has the parts stashed he told me
 
Beater said:
lots and lots of stuff came back. it is an M2. he took it apart and took the selector out of it so it couldnt be set to FA. still has the parts stashed he told me
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You are a genius for talking about all this on a public forum.
Do you hate your uncle or something?
 
If so, I hope the uncle looked Trudeau up and kicked his a$$ good on the other side. I know I would.
 
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