Funny that you say you don't want to get into this argument again and then immediately follow up with a whole page post!
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Funny that you say you don't want to get into this argument again and then immediately follow up with a whole page post!
The post points out why it's pointless to attack any one form of hunting over another. Not the pros or cons of hunting on the road.
Perhaps you're one of those guys who thinks it makes sense to slag bear baiters if you don't do it, or who thinks the only way to hunt is by treestand, and those guys walking thru the woods are losers. But personally - i find that kind of argument to be the sign of an underdeveloped hunter. If you can only see one way to hunt, then chances are you don't really understand hunting.
And that'd be my point. Not 'road = bad/good'
dreamwaters: The road hunting comment was just a joke OK. Had you been around long enough, you'd get it. So back off and let it go. #### me anyways, I like MTM he sold me a great .375 H&H - he's a buddy. Once again, just a F'N INTERNAL JOKE.
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Hey, let a fella get his muffs on before you start yellin' OK?
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No matter how pissed I was at someone at some moment due to their actions, I wouldn't know how to live with myself if vandalizing someone's vehicle (emptying the tires in the middle of the bush for example) resulted in them experiencing some kind of emergency in the bush.
Is someone blocking a road really worth possibly killing them? I don't think so.
Earlier this year there was an incident here in Kananaskis where someone pulled into a parking spot ahead of someone else at one of the day use areas. When they got back to their vehicle, the tires were flat. Sure, it's a day-use area in Kananaskis where there's almost always other people around somewhere, but in some parts there is no cell-phone reception, and depending on when they got back, perhaps no one else around. If they had gone on a hike and gotten back just before dark, that could've turned into a dangerous situation.
Now for those who want to blame the individual anyway for 'stealing' the parking spot from the other vehicle, you might want to keep in mind that they may have had no idea that the other person actually intended to park there. I once got back to my car after a day in the Tyrrell Museum in Drumheller to find that my car had been keyed all across the back door. It was during the summer, and the parking lot was busy, so best as I can figure it may have been something like that, where I 'took' someone elses parking spot. Problem is, I had absolutely no idea there was anyone around waiting for it. If they were, it certainly wasn't obvious or I would've definitely noticed. I would never pull into a spot in front of someone obviously intent on parking.
Of course, maybe this wasn't the case at all. When parking at Costco as a family once, we had a lady come up behind us after we parked. She was frothing at the mouth insisting the spot was hers even though her vehicle wasn't even present in the row while we parked! I guess it had her name written all over it from across the parking lot..
In closing, the best way to look at this is the golden rule. Would you want your tires flattened/doors keyed/truck shot/etc. over something so minor and insignificant in the bigger picture?
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A few days ago I got my truck stuck in the bush in the middle of no-where, I was facing at least a half-day walk to get to the nearest place with people, a gas plant that is manned 24hrs a day.
Luck for me some nice people came along after about 4 hours of walking and gave me a ride all the way back to my doorstep and I was able to sleep in my own bed that night.
THAT IS WHY YOU DON"T ACT LIKE AN ####### IN THE BUSH, OR YOU COULD END UP WALKING ALL ####ING NIGHT LONG.
Luck for me some nice people came along after about 4 hours of walking and gave me a ride all the way back to my doorstep and I was able to sleep in my own bed that night.
THAT IS WHY YOU DON"T ACT LIKE AN ####### IN THE BUSH, OR YOU COULD END UP WALKING ALL ####ING NIGHT LONG.
For a while I thought I was on that other forum where you have a lot of children name calling and blaming others. You know the one when kids don't get their way in the sand box they take their toys and leave the sand box. I would agree to disagree but most of all why ruin a hunting day, save that for a work day?
...couldn't agree more. Regardless if the said road peters out in a landing 500 meters farther up or not. In my opinion this person is an asshat. Hunters are absolutely not the only people using the bush. People like myself who live in the interior and are employed in the bush would be happy to hook a tow strap to this guys bumper.
Mad Mikey
There is no excuse for blocking a public road to try and claim a private hunting area for yourself.Anyone that does so,deserves to have someone else enter their hunting area and ruin their day.If it's a private road on private land,and you are the land owner,or the only person with permission,that is another situation entirely.
This topics seems to touch alot of nerves and the situation takes alot of cool heads if the road is blocked ............... call up your local conservation officers and give details , liscense plate numbers along with pictures,document time and place where the incident happend and let the law handle it
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I know of trucks being pushed off the road, and wouldn't hesitate to do it myself if it were an emergency on the way out. You have no right to block a road. It makes no difference if guys come in on your spot, spook the deer, whatever,... you have no right to block a public road so as to increase your chances at success hunting.
I have been in the night before and camped at the end, mile 26. I have been on my way out, an found a truck and quad trailer at mile 23 parked in the middle of the road.
So at this point what are your options...
Wait 4 or 5 hours?
Push the truck out of the way?
What if it was an emergency?
Dead ends are not so bad as long as you have gone to the end and that is where you parked. 10 miles in a 20 mile dead end is very different.
If I am on my way in and truck has blocked the road, I will lay on the horn for a solid 5 minutes before leaving.
I have been in the night before and camped at the end, mile 26. I have been on my way out, an found a truck and quad trailer at mile 23 parked in the middle of the road.
So at this point what are your options...
Wait 4 or 5 hours?
Push the truck out of the way?
What if it was an emergency?
Dead ends are not so bad as long as you have gone to the end and that is where you parked. 10 miles in a 20 mile dead end is very different.
If I am on my way in and truck has blocked the road, I will lay on the horn for a solid 5 minutes before leaving.
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Where I grew up in northwestern ontario there was one paved road and 1000 gravel roads. We would see people blocking roads for 'private' hunting alot!
My take on it was, why block? Any hunter with some ethic won't want to hunt near another already hunting (for safety or wrecking a hunt reasons), so just park off to the side. That way no one gets steamed and people who drive in anyways are jagoffs and prob would have driven in anyways..... and been enraged at your 'blocking' the spot!
Remember the old saying "never fight with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!"
Watching a couple altercations between the old man and strangers when I was a kid led to a strong 'hands off' approach as an adult. You can't go hunting after some idiot has shot you........
My take on it was, why block? Any hunter with some ethic won't want to hunt near another already hunting (for safety or wrecking a hunt reasons), so just park off to the side. That way no one gets steamed and people who drive in anyways are jagoffs and prob would have driven in anyways..... and been enraged at your 'blocking' the spot!
Remember the old saying "never fight with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!"
Watching a couple altercations between the old man and strangers when I was a kid led to a strong 'hands off' approach as an adult. You can't go hunting after some idiot has shot you........
An area I hunt(lease land) has an old logging road through it but the access is gated. A couple of years back I ran into a bunch of quad/ truck hunters driving the cutblocks. They beat a hasty retreat when they saw me from about 500 yds away and it turned out they had cut the fence about 20 yds from a gate. The next year there are no tresspassing signs everywhere and the gates are chained/locked. The following year someone felled trees across the entrances. I happen to know the lease holder and I happen to know he has nothing to do with the signs,locks or fallen trees.
So... someone is attempting to turn public land into their own private hunting ground. I'm out there alot during rifle season so I'm thinking it may be a bow hunter.
Last year I decided to drive in during bow season to hang a stand. I cut the lock and bucked up the logs. I told the lease holder and F&W I was going to do this. I haven't been back since I pulled my deer out but I am curious to see whats up there this year.
So... someone is attempting to turn public land into their own private hunting ground. I'm out there alot during rifle season so I'm thinking it may be a bow hunter.
Last year I decided to drive in during bow season to hang a stand. I cut the lock and bucked up the logs. I told the lease holder and F&W I was going to do this. I haven't been back since I pulled my deer out but I am curious to see whats up there this year.
