UPDATE #34 what would cause that much damage to a S&W Revolver

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Hey Guys

My gun as multiple issues and I'm trying to figure out what to do with it. repair or sell it.

Here some of the problems I know
-The cylinder get out of timing, If I apply some pressure with my thumb it, while pulling back the hammer
-The cylinder locking slot show some wear and are burred out.
-The ejector rod is slightly crocked even if it as been replace with a bran new one
-The cylinder extractor star show some sign of wear where the hand touches
-The Forcing Cone edge are rounded on the left side and sharp on the right for some reason.

The gun still shoot quite accurately to me , and function properly in single and double action mode , but gets out of timing once in a while.

I know it's probably hard to tell for you is it's fixable or not , but my question is more if it's worth fixing. With your experience and knowledge what do you think .
I put about 200 rounds in the gun and the original owner told me he had less then 500 in it.
Cosmetic look is very good to me .
Thanks
 
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-The ejector rod is slightly crocked even if it as been replace with a bran new one
Is it possible the crane(the part which allows cylinder to rotate out of frame) is bent? When cylinder is rotated in frame, does cylinder gap to top strap vary? Cranes can be straightened or replaced, but don't trust your local blacksmith/gunsmith.
 
Most of what you describe seems to be symptoms of the cylinder not lining up with the barrel and the damage is a result of the stress caused by the bullet striking the side of the forcing cone. You need to find out why that is happening

cheers mooncoon
 
Send it to M J Charleton.
The crane is probably bent from snapping the cyclinder open and closed(Hollywood Style).
Is the pressure exerted by your thumb on the cyclinder lock?
 
.....I put about 200 rounds in the gun and the original owner told me he had less then 500 in it.........


If this part about there only being 700 rounds through the gun is true then I'd go with the thought that the original ownder bent the crane or some other part of the cylinder axis support early in its life and the rest of the damage is as a result of the gun battering itself to death since then. The damage may not be final at this stage but I sure would not shoot it anymore until it is properly serviced and the underlying cause is corrected along with the other issues.
 
It's a Smith 686
Im not using it anymore, I can sell it to someone who didnt know Sh$% about revolver like me, when I first got it. Then I read to many books and found out many flaws

I never did the holywood BS to close the cylinder but I guess the previous owner did.
Crane is probly bent like you guys said

I dont trust any smith in Quebec too. I normally do everything myself , but I whole shortning the barrel to re do the forcing cone is over my competencies
I think I am gonna send the gun to Wortner Gun Works.

I just need to figure out how much $$$ is worthed to invest in that gun
 
if you sold it the way it is right now. you would really be nothing more than a dirt bag selling a trash gun as a working gun. not a good thing. and it would be amusing seeing you try and sell it here on the EE now that you have said it doesn't work right. as for taking it to a gun shop. they do generally Test guns for working order before buying.
 
Ahh I was waiting for this , 2 completly useless comments that as nothing to do with the thread.

Thanks to those who gave a intelligent answer it really the helped me out.

As for those who think people are Stupid and talk without what the hell they are talking about, I wish all the best.
 
That's M.D. Charlton, actually. I can vouch for the quality of their work. Give them a call and ask for Murray.

The other S&W warranty depot in Canada is Wortner Gun Works in Ontario. I have no experience with them, but they seem to have a good reputation and they are closer to Quebec, so shipping would be less.
 
Kind of sounds like the last owner was playing TV detective too much and flipping the cylinder in and out too hard. That can be hell on the crane and alignment.

Hope they can get it fixed up for you.
 
I think the crane is bent, as was already mentioned. It is possible for a gunsmith with the proper jig to straighten the crane and fix the alignment problem, possibly a new crane might solve the problem, but it might also need to be aligned.
 
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