US Team Savage Wins Big US F class Meet

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Visiting the 6mmbr blog, looks like Team Savage has just won the Spirit of America F class Team event at the US Nats - Raton, NM.

Looking for more details on gear, shooters and such but the competition would have been top notch.

Awesome to see the 'lowly' Savage take a top US event.

Of course, the drivers are some of the best in this game too.

Jerry
 
BUM, if they shot Rem's and Rem like actions, they would have placed no higher then SECOND :)

I too am waiting for the specs to see how 'factory' these rifles are?????

The team is made up of some of the best F class shooters the US has to offer so that really helps the equipment shine too. Conditions were apparently horrid so no one had an equipment advantage.

Max, I think Jamie is getting comfy with being beat by Savage/Stevens now.

Jerry
 
Nice to see Savage getting some credit for the quality of their products. At the range you see alot of older custom rifles built on the beautiful 700 action, and some on the 98 action, but as of late you see alot of Savage and Stevens. I guess it just takes some people a long time to realize the potential behind these rifles.

Although I love the 700, and find it to be a much more attractive rifle, there is no comparison in triggers. I am not a sub moa shot, but its nice to know the rifle can do that if I were ever to progress to that state.

Good for Savage, its a success story thats still being written.
 
Jerry I meet a couple of the Savage Fclass team members last year @ the BCRA Precision Rifle Championships they stated that Savage gave them off the shelf rifles to use and that they did not do any mods other than bedding and adjust the trigger pull
 
thanks for the update Savage. The key point is the barrel. The rest of the rifle is a no brainer and works just fine. The pipe is the biggest hurdle in a factory rifle.

I have had ALL my Savage and Stevens shoot around 1/2 MOA out to 200yds with handloads. ALL of those same barrels would walk after the barrel got hot. Pretty hard to shoot well if the pipe is heading for places unknown.

So, if these are true factory made pipes, are they doing additional heat treating to stabilize the metal? Are they installing aftermarket blanks?

Jerry
 
My 1:9 LRPV .223 shoots better than I do. I wish mine had the Target Accutrigger though. I think the lower trigger weight helps as less pulling = less movement.
 
Here is some feedback from one of the Savage Team members and a shooter that kicked some serious butt.

"Hey All,

At the F-Class Nationals, Team Savage finished third in the 600 yard team match, and second in the 1000 yard team match. Conditions were as evil as I have ever seen at 1000 yards. We dropped over 100 points (out of 800) and finished second in F-T/R class.... ahead of a number of F-Open teams.

As regards equipment, Team Savage was running all new Model 12 F-T/R rifles. They all shoot like a house afire! There were two different loads at work here. Three of us were running a version of my "melted dilithium crystal" load i.e. Berger 155 grain VLD bullet running a little over 3105 fps. This load is very accurate and bucks the wind very well. Monte was running a slightly more sane load, that being: the same Berger 155 at ~2950 fps. By the results of the SOA and F-Class Nationals, both loads worked admirably, taking two of the top three places in each competition.

More later, we're currently writing this as we zoom across Montana.

Darrell Buell
Team Savage "

Please note that the super over pressure load listed above is not recommended for anyone to try and develop. DANGER!!!!!!

You can read more on the results in 6mmbr.com.

Jerry
 
Model 12 F-T/R rifles. They all shoot like a house afire!

12-F-TR-Target-Rifle.jpg


This one? What caliber do you think?

LH
 
A grungy, in a good way, cramped little store. That is packed with all things a man could want. Karle is easy to deal with but his prices may seem to be a tad high. I believe the main reason is he is in the supply chain "boonies".

Granlund Firearms
522 South Dogwood Street
Phone number 250-286-1998
Fax 250-286-1817

Cheers
Kevin

Berger bullet dealer in BC?

From the Berger website:
Grandlund Firearms
Box 946
Campbell River
BC

Who dat?

LH
 
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The key to the Savage is that it is a single shot action. It has a big piece of stell on the top of the action and it is solid on the bottom. A repeater is flimsy in comparison. The latest Savage/Stevens uses a port on the side. The rest is solid steel.

When you hange a heavy barrel on an action and then chamber it with a big case loaded with 2 scoops of powder, the action takes a pounding.

Most of my single shot bolt actions have 3 action screws. The third screw makes a noticable difference when added. It cannot be added to a repeater.

If I have to use a repeater, I use the Rem 788 because it is stiff and has an excellent lock time.
 
Here is somemore info from one of the top shooters of the nationals.

"Jerry,

The rifles are all essentially rack grade sticks. Three of them have been bedded (Darrell's rifle being the sole exception, and obviously it didn't hold him back any), and two of them have Tubb buttplates fitted to the stock. Mine... well I had to do some scrambling to get a scope remounted before the SOA match and didn't get it quite far forward enough and used some really tall rings (Burris Signature Zee Extra High rings). As a result mine got some... field expedient alterations involving foam padding and duct tape. Not pretty, but it worked. I'll probably get a couple spacers made up to fit in there instead so it looks a little nicer

Something else to consider... there were ~19 F/TR shooters @ the FCNC. Six (~1/3) were shooting Savage-based rifles. The four of us on Team Savage w/ the new 12 F/TR rifles, plus Warren Dean shooting a Savage w/ a custom barrel and stock, and Hans Prinz with another Savage with custom barrel and stock. Warren cleaned the 500 and 600 yd targets during the SOA matches (i.e. 100 w/ good X count), and was one of the few F/TR shooters to do so. I came close (99-7X @ 500yds), but didn't quite manage to make it happen. The one point I dropped there was solely due to me thinking I saw more wind than there was. Hans had some gun problems the first day of the FCNC (turns out he had a broken firing pin) right off the bat, but we got him back in action with one of the team rifles and ammo so he could finish the first stage/match @ 600yds. Savage provided us w/ a 'care package' of small parts, so we got his firing pin replaced between relays and he was back in action. He also out-shot me w/ my own rifle that day (147-5X!!!). On the second day (first day @ 1k), Hans took 2nd F/TR for the day... with a crossfire (beautiful '10', too). Otherwise he'd have been in the lead by *9* points. The point is, there were a lot of good shooters there, and not just on the Savage team. It was a really enjoyable week of shooting for me, as I rarely get to go head-to-head with other F/TR shooters in my neck of the woods.

Monte Milanuk
Team Savage "

Unless the pipe is really large and long, the repeater action WILL support it just fine. I know several F class shooters that hang 28" to 30" heavy varminter pipes off their repeaters with no problem (barrel nut install). If you went with a no taper 1.25" pipe that long, I would look at a block or the single shot action for sure.

Any normal varminter 26" pipe is easily handled by the repeating action.

My 6.5 Mystic rifles use Stevens actions and have a block more to control barrel heat then for support. Works very well. Controls high pressure firings without any issue and has proven superbly accurate.

If you ensure that the bending load is within design limits, both solid and repeater actions will provide the same level of mechanical accuracy. Supporting under the first inch or two of barrel, with bedding, will reduce strain on the action tremendously.

Jerry
 
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