lets say you were looking for a used 4x4 toyota under $10,000-and you found one that didn't appear to be abused,what would a reasonable mileage be before you were looking at major repairs[engine rebuild, transmission, front end etc]and, would you choose the 4cyl,or 6?Any particular year to look for/avoid?
used truck-reasonable mileage?
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no telling, depends on how it was treated, had one last year, a 1993 that had already gone through an engine, a second timing belt and I had to re-do the whole front end. Friend at work bought a 94 3 months ago, has 260,000 klm's on it. Nothing has ever been done to it, and not costing him a cent. Goes either way!
simplistically,I would look for chrome rims-chances are it would be one of the 4x4's that never went off pavement.The reason I was asking about toyota's is I suspect you might have a better chance at getting a dependable used truck than a domestic.
do the math on the mileage. Divide the number of kilometers by the numbers of years old the truck is... less than 30,000 a year would be nice.
But, if the number seems too low.. that may be an indication the truck had been sitting idle for a few years ( ICBC write off?)
I found this problem with a truck I was going to buy once. The kilometers worked out to be 10,000 a year... well some digging and I found out the truck was actually "rebuilt" status.
My bush truck is an 89 suburban ( ex forestry truck) it has almost 300,000km on it, but is 17 years old....17,647 kilometers a year. This is ok because the truck was used as an ambulance ( transport).. not a regular drive everyday truck. They hardly ever drove it.
But, if the number seems too low.. that may be an indication the truck had been sitting idle for a few years ( ICBC write off?)
I found this problem with a truck I was going to buy once. The kilometers worked out to be 10,000 a year... well some digging and I found out the truck was actually "rebuilt" status.
My bush truck is an 89 suburban ( ex forestry truck) it has almost 300,000km on it, but is 17 years old....17,647 kilometers a year. This is ok because the truck was used as an ambulance ( transport).. not a regular drive everyday truck. They hardly ever drove it.
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This one of the reasons I'm thinking about buying a Japanese diesel Pajero, Hi-Lux Surf or Patrol. You can find a 1991 with under a 100K on it for about $10,000 landed and registered. The right-hand-drive is no problem for me except for the obvious like drive-throughs and pay parkades.
A 2006 4x4 tacoma is listed about $34,000-and if you assumed a reasonable ''life'' of 300 K, before you incurred serious money for repairs, then a 10 year old truck with 150K would have to be seriously discounted below 50% of the new price for it to be worth considering,because you are buying the second ''half life''of the truck.In fact,from that point of view-one might be better off buying the truck new and selling it at the 150k mark.Comments/opinions?
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Clead said:
just go in backwards
I picked up an 86 toyota 1 ton 2wd with the 22re engine,at the auction for $400 but my kid sort of appropriated it.I;d like to find a 4x4 in similar condition-there's an 87 offered with 168k on it and the guy says he knows the mileage is correct-engine is tight and no leaks.What do you think a reasonable price would be?He's asking $6500
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The Toyota 22RE 2.4l gas engine is a legend for reliability and longevity.
The only weak point is the single row timing chain with plastic chain guides. It must be replaced after 160000 km.
DOA Racing in the states makes a great kit with steel chain guides.
The only weak point is the single row timing chain with plastic chain guides. It must be replaced after 160000 km.
DOA Racing in the states makes a great kit with steel chain guides.
OK as a mechanic at a Toyota dealer here are some recomendations . 22R tough little motor as long as you do your oil changes . If the oil changes aren't done reasonably regular the timing chain goes and eventually wears through the front cover into a water passage . coolant in oil means a toasted motor. to check for this start the motor from dead cold if it rattles then shuts up the chian is on it's way out pass on that one, or make sure the price drops about a $1000 because that is what it is gonna cost at a shop to fix depending on what the shop you use charges.
If you are looking at a pre 95 the other motor is the 3L V6 , check the water pump they have a tendency to leak and it is driven by the timing belt so it is a bit of a job to do. follow the lower rad hose to the block . If it has Toyota antifreeze in the rad ( it is red ) look for pinkish or red streaks or if really bad something that looks like a corral growth, if green antifreeze it will ust be wet. also the timing belt is done every 96,000 km's so check the front cover for a sticker to tell when it was done last.
the other thing that goes on the 95 and olders are the fuel and brake lines have a tendancy to rust out above the gas tank . kinda hard to really check but at least look to see if they are leaking already.
If you do buy a truck or 4 runner 89-95 stop by the local dealership and check if the center link campaign has been done . I can't remember the exact campaign # but I think It 507 or 508 , it is 5 0 something anyway. also don't dismiss the T100 , if you can find one. They are one tough truck .
and if you find a Toyota newer than 1995 in good shape for under $10,000 tell me where you live because I am coming to your town truck shopping. Toyota's are pretty damn good trucks but they demand a nose bleed premium around here.
Happy shopping
PS as for mileage we had one customer who had a 1990 Toyota 2wd last time I seen it it had almost 800,000 on it the 22r had not been apart for anything bigger than a water pump . but he also did oil changes every 3000 km and always did the maintenance as per the owners manual. I think it rusted out on him .
If you are looking at a pre 95 the other motor is the 3L V6 , check the water pump they have a tendency to leak and it is driven by the timing belt so it is a bit of a job to do. follow the lower rad hose to the block . If it has Toyota antifreeze in the rad ( it is red ) look for pinkish or red streaks or if really bad something that looks like a corral growth, if green antifreeze it will ust be wet. also the timing belt is done every 96,000 km's so check the front cover for a sticker to tell when it was done last.
the other thing that goes on the 95 and olders are the fuel and brake lines have a tendancy to rust out above the gas tank . kinda hard to really check but at least look to see if they are leaking already.
If you do buy a truck or 4 runner 89-95 stop by the local dealership and check if the center link campaign has been done . I can't remember the exact campaign # but I think It 507 or 508 , it is 5 0 something anyway. also don't dismiss the T100 , if you can find one. They are one tough truck .
and if you find a Toyota newer than 1995 in good shape for under $10,000 tell me where you live because I am coming to your town truck shopping. Toyota's are pretty damn good trucks but they demand a nose bleed premium around here.
Happy shopping
PS as for mileage we had one customer who had a 1990 Toyota 2wd last time I seen it it had almost 800,000 on it the 22r had not been apart for anything bigger than a water pump . but he also did oil changes every 3000 km and always did the maintenance as per the owners manual. I think it rusted out on him .
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The thing to remimber with Toyota trucks it to check the frame for rust. The early ones are built on a super solid square tube frame that can rust from the inside out so check it with a hammer for deflection or cracks before you buy. The 3.0 v6 and 2.4 I4 are good solid performers.
I'm currently building a performance 3.0 looking for 200hp which should move my black beauty around real nice.
I'm currently building a performance 3.0 looking for 200hp which should move my black beauty around real nice.
one more question ,since I have pretty well decided on looking for a used Toyota 4x4-for a huntiong truck,would you buy a 4 or 6cyl engine-and what is the mileage diferance?Also-while the 22re is well known for reliabilty-what about the 6?The most we would be towing is a lightweight trillium trailer
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Clead said:
but it would be handy for shooting out the window
seriously, if its a big problem how hard would it be to swap it across to the left side.
(I really don't mind right hand drive, I've driven a few thousand km in england and scotland)
I think the mileage difference would be not enough to worry about I don't have any figures on the 22r but I know the carbed ones where better on gas than the injected ones, but the injected ones have more power. My coworker has a 1992 v6 truck with a standard and gets 22 -25mpg in the summer and like most Toyota 4X4's it drops to aroung 15 in the winter.
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A buddy of mine imports Land Cruisers from Japan (check out his website; Rising Sun Imports), as well as a few Pajero's now and then. The Pajero diesels are REALLY torquey for a 4-cylinder, great on fuel and a lot cheaper than Land Cruisers, overall he had nothing but good things to say about them. You may also wanna check out Suzuki Jimny diesels (basically a Suzuki Samurai, except RH drive and diesel powered). They've got a 660cc 3-cylinder turbo diesel, godawful slow, but incredible on fuel and very capable off-road. Just my $0.02 :beerchug:Clead said:
dnepr said:
Saying v6 is a bit silly. Toyota used the 3.0 v6 3vze from 1988-1994 and then launched the 3.4 v6 5vzfe in 95. For the 3.4 to break 20mpg in the ideal conditions in stock form is a miracle to say the least, the 3.4 has about 30-40hp more and gets much better milage the the 3.0 in the low 20s range. If it were me and I just wanted a good hunting truck I'd look for a rust free gen 3 truck (89-94) with the 2.4. I have an 89 with the 3.0 v6 and had a 2.4. I love the v6 and have spent thousands on my truck and its not even done, but Toyota trucks are my hobby and I wanted to do something different.
You can't beat the milage, simplicity, availability of parts etc of the 2.4, its a really great engine that was used in true 1ton trucks all over the world. Just soo easy to work on over the v6, ask me how I know.
