USP recoil reduction

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Could I get some feedback from USP owners concerning their "recoil reduction system":

Is it really noticable (compared to guns without such a system) or is it just a lotta marketing hype?

Thanks
 
heavier guns absorb more recoil and don't need any "recoil reduction system" also lower bore axis reduces the muzzle flip...

I've heard that without the recoil buffer HK has less flip but does recoil more...not sure now that works exactly.
 
The main advantage of the USP buffer is that it greatly reduces wear and tear. There are many people on the HK Pro board who have over 100K rounds through their USP without any part failures (other than spring replacement). In terms of the shooter's percieved recoil, the USP is a relatively soft shooting pistol but not as soft as an all steel gun such as Sig P226ST.
 
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I would say it does work. It makes the felt recoil on the light USP, closer to what you would experience with a heavy SIG 226 or 229, and definitely less than what you get on the (also light) GLOCK. The SIG is the softer shooting pistol, but HK has tried to have the best of both worlds, lightweight and low felt recoil, and their solution is really a success I think. The benefit of a lightweight gun doesn't really come into play unless you carry the gun for a living or CCW, though.

The recoil reduction system doesn't make a huge difference in felt recoil, but it does have some effect. As I say you can achieve lower felt recoil by just making the gun 8 or 10 ounces heavier. Recoil reduction probably has more to do with extending the service life of the pistol than it does with reducing felt recoil for the shooter and extending the target shooting session at the range, but it helps there too.

USP is a good gun. Try and get a model with a match trigger if you can - if you are planning to do any target oriented shooting. I found the trigger to be more of an issue with this gun than recoil or anything else. The USP trigger is harder to get used to than many other DA/SA guns. Recoil is not much of an issue with these guns. I have a 9mm USP, but I've shot .40s and .45s too. They aren't hard recoiling guns.
 
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It works better once the gun springs are worked in. The advantage to using a weaker recoil spring is less movement, cycles smoother, tends to shoot flatter, the disadvantage being more wear and tear on your pistol. The HK USP feeds exceptionally reliable. You can actually slowly ride the slide forward and it will cycle. The Buffer takes most of the pounding, so less wear on the gun. If it were legal to do so for production division, I would put a weaker recoil spring in the USP. Guys in the USA are doing so and find there is less flip, and cycles smoother.
 
Sinasta said:
After all the above posts...

Please tell us your experiences. :bsFlag:
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I own a USP40. I have run everything from target ammo (WWB) to high quality self-defense ammo (Speer). It has been 100% reliable just like my Sigs and XD.

I can't say I have noticed any difference in recoil using the USP40 compared to the XD40 or Sig SP2022. That's it. In my exerience, I don't think it recoils less than similar sized quality polymer handguns. It certainly doesn't recoil more. Just doesn't recoil less either. At least not in any noticable amount.
 
USP recoil: Thank you

Well judging by the responses I would have to conclude that the system helps the gun more than the shooter; and "felt recoil" is very much a personal perspective.

Thanks for the input ... I hope I get a chance to try one in the near future.
 
tigerstail said:
Well judging by the responses I would have to conclude that the system helps the gun more than the shooter; and "felt recoil" is very much a personal perspective.

Thanks for the input ... I hope I get a chance to try one in the near future.
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If the USP system is anything like the design of the EFK Fire Dragon recoil buffer system, then I would make the same conclusion also. I made the mistake of ordering one of these doodads a while ago after reading on their website that it reduces felt recoil by 40% and also reduces muzzle flip. I put it in my Ruger KP89DC 9mm, and it didn't feel any different from the stock guide rod and spring! Not only that, but the EFK system was a PITA to install and take off for cleaning the pistol...another $80+ lesson learned. Now it sits in my drawer.
 
I think the recoil reduction system was mainly to save the frame from taking the brunt of the recoil forces. Felt recoil is subjective to the individual shooting the gun.
 
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