Value of a pre 64 model 70 in 300H&H?
- Thread starter gdawg
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Tell us more about the rifle. For example is it a Standard or Super Grade. Is it all original such as sights and butt pad, has the stock and or metal been altered or refinished. Any alteration from factory detracts from the value. Many of the 300 H&H were rechambered to 300 Weatherby. Pictures would be nice.
Standard grade. As far as I could tell, it has not been altered. Definitely not refinished. Original sights for sure and pretty sure original butt pad, but I will double check on that.
Assuming all original, and no mods what would be the ball park?
Assuming all original, and no mods what would be the ball park?
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
A more rare caliber would increase the value.
- Location
- Saskatchewan
You could probably get 1k or more if you're not in a rush. Guys who like the pre 64s and who really like the 300 hh will pay top dollar. Might even squeeze 1500-2000$ from the right guy, if it's 100% original and 100% mint. But shoot it once. A LOT of those guns were cut to a 300 weatherby mag. If it has been, the value is only 1/2 of what it would be in the 300 HH.....
The pre 64 M-70 in 300 H&H was not a rare calibre, it was one of the common ones. The Blue Book lists that gun in the $6oo. US range. That being said they never sell that low. In in the US where guns command higher prices than Canada, that gun as you describe lists on the Guns International site in the $2500.00 US range. Realistically in my opinion I would ask $1500. CDN and take what ever you can get from there. There was a 300 H&H Super Grade on the EE for $1950. and fellas did not appear to lined up to get it. Like anything your selling it is worth only what someone is willing to give for it. Keeping in mind the economic climate in Canada at present doesn't have money filling peoples pockets.
gdawg . . Good pictures and serial number would help in assessing value. . With pre-64 Model 70's; correctness is very important in relationship to value. . If they've been messed with, the value goes to half and sometimes less than.
The main points to keep in mind are: 1. Condition 2. Rarity 3. Originality all factored into the state of the economy equals asking price.
The rarer the caliber the more it's worth. . The early 1960 models are worth less due to the poor stock wood and terrible checkering. . Steel and aluminum buttplate models are worth more than the later versions with cost cutting plastic buttplates. . On average, Supergrades have a 200% premium over Standard Grades and Featherweights have a 140% premiuim over Standard Grades.
Winchester built 581,471 pre-64 M70 rifles of which 200,000 were chambered in 30-06 and 100,000 chambered in 270 win. . The 300 H&H was offered from the beginning to end (1936 - 1963) with 37,000 total chambered in 300 H&H. . being a rare caliber and a very popular caliber, right to this day, has a considerable premium over one in 30-06. .
BUT . . To obtain the high value the rifle must be very good to excellent (NRA) original condition. . Any modifications such as : aftermarket recoil pad, wrong buttplate, side mount scope holes, wrong sights, wrong sling swivels, re-chambered, re-blued, refinished etc. . . automatically cuts the value to half and sometimes less than. .
For example: - The only Featherweight, pre-64 Model 70, offered with a recoil pad was chambered in 264 win mag. The 375 H&H came from the factory with patent dated solid red Winchester Pad. . The 300 H&H was offered with a pat dated pad if ordered as such. .
I bought this 300 H&H in the mid 1990's and has become one of my favorite pre-64 M70's
The main points to keep in mind are: 1. Condition 2. Rarity 3. Originality all factored into the state of the economy equals asking price.
The rarer the caliber the more it's worth. . The early 1960 models are worth less due to the poor stock wood and terrible checkering. . Steel and aluminum buttplate models are worth more than the later versions with cost cutting plastic buttplates. . On average, Supergrades have a 200% premium over Standard Grades and Featherweights have a 140% premiuim over Standard Grades.
Winchester built 581,471 pre-64 M70 rifles of which 200,000 were chambered in 30-06 and 100,000 chambered in 270 win. . The 300 H&H was offered from the beginning to end (1936 - 1963) with 37,000 total chambered in 300 H&H. . being a rare caliber and a very popular caliber, right to this day, has a considerable premium over one in 30-06. .
BUT . . To obtain the high value the rifle must be very good to excellent (NRA) original condition. . Any modifications such as : aftermarket recoil pad, wrong buttplate, side mount scope holes, wrong sights, wrong sling swivels, re-chambered, re-blued, refinished etc. . . automatically cuts the value to half and sometimes less than. .
For example: - The only Featherweight, pre-64 Model 70, offered with a recoil pad was chambered in 264 win mag. The 375 H&H came from the factory with patent dated solid red Winchester Pad. . The 300 H&H was offered with a pat dated pad if ordered as such. .
I bought this 300 H&H in the mid 1990's and has become one of my favorite pre-64 M70's
Thanks again for the feedback gentlemen. If I could have posted a pic, I would have. It belongs to a relative and I didn't take pics of it when I checked it out. Almost positive it has not been tinkered with (no unusual scope holes, rebluing, refinishing etc). Not sure about the butt plate. I don't recall it having a metal butt plate but wasn't paying attention to it either. I knew pre-64s had appeal but wasn't sure if the calibre would detract from the value because I almost never see 300H&H ammo these days (though I have never been on the hunt for it frankly). Anyway I will try and get some more details and let him know it might be more valuable that he suspected. It has been offered to me for nothing.
lowridersvt
CGN Regular
- Location
- Niagara Falls ont
pre 64 winchesters are an acquired taste. In mint shape they start about a grand for a 270 30-06 to 15grand US for rare Calibers
There was a 300h&h at the last show I was at for 1400$ and it sold fast
There was a 300h&h at the last show I was at for 1400$ and it sold fast
That's good, for you but that doesn't help the OP in determining the value.
