Value of used 30-30 Centennial Win 94

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I handled a Win 94 Centennial with octagonal 26"bbl. Rifle looks to be fired, no box, papers. Had dings in wood and one teeny small spot of rust on bbl. Is $650 reasonable
Price?
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Not a reasonable price for me. It's a used Model 94, made during the years which were not the finest for the Winchester 94.
What value does it have, besides being a shooter?
Because it is a bit different than the run of the mill shooters of that time, it might be worth extra to someone. I would give it a value of
$375-400.
 
definately a "shooter/hunting" gun

Thats kinda what I was thinking H4831, starting at around $350 and see where it goes. The store owner knows me quite well and I've spent a fair share of $dough$ there so maybe he'll work me out a friendly deal :)
Thx for reply.
 
Well...maybe it's worth more than you guys are thinking here. I would say it may be worth $550 to $600 even as a shooter. Having said this, I have seen them go for as much as $650 in this condition in private sales (i.e. no tax). Maybe let us know what the dealer is willing to part with it for? :)
 
I most definately will let you know what the dealer wants. And provide pics to boot ;)
I know the dealer personally and I do know that his mark up is in alot of cases 50-75% or more, just cause there are alot of ignorant buyers out there (y I luv the internet) who will pay those prices not knowing any better.
My intentions then, will be to ask him what he wants and I'll tell him that from my research what the ballpark value is and go from there.
 
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Best to sell it now (or pass on it!) while it still functions as a working repeating rifle.
I have the same one, and H4831 is spot on regarding poorest quality internal parts.
Unfortuneately there is just enough different parts within the action for this Post 64 Winchester to almost be it's own limited series.
If you don't believe me, shoot it enough so that some softer parts fail, then call up Western Gun Parts to receive the bad news.
I keep mine around for that neat long barrel as a project gun someday and that's it.

Edit: If I had to do this over again, I would have passed on it, thank you very much Winchester.
The sticker price of $650, is the asking price for some poor uninformed buyer IMO. Same opinion on $300!
Okay, 300 but not much more.
 
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At the recent Switzers auctions, commemoratives in boxes were selling for about $450. These weren't used guns with marks and spots of rust.
I know of a couple of used RCMP centennials which sold through a dealer for well under $400.
As mentionned, that particular vintage of post -'64 Winchesters have little to recommend them from the mechanical standpoint.
$650 is not realistic. At least double what the rifle is worth. But allowing for typical dealer markup on a used gun, the dealer probably can't sell it for a whole lot less.
By and large, these commemoratives have little to recommend them, for any purpose. They certainly have not appreciated. A Canadian Centennial sold for $125 in 1967. What will one sell for now? Not much appreciation in value for a 44 year investment. Most likely a loss in real terms, considering inflation, and what a real investment would be worth.
 
tiriaq said:
At the recent Switzers auctions, commemoratives in boxes were selling for about $450. These weren't used guns with marks and spots of rust.
I know of a couple of used RCMP centennials which sold through a dealer for well under $400.
As mentionned, that particular vintage of post -'64 Winchesters have little to recommend them from the mechanical standpoint.
$650 is not realistic. At least double what the rifle is worth. But allowing for typical dealer markup on a used gun, the dealer probably can't sell it for a whole lot less.
By and large, these commemoratives have little to recommend them, for any purpose. They certainly have not appreciated. A Canadian Centennial sold for $125 in 1967. What will one sell for now? Not much appreciation in value for a 44 year investment. Most likely a loss in real terms, considering inflation, and what a real investment would be worth.
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I agree 100%. The only way these commemoratives have any real value as collectibles is if they are new in the box with paperwork. Anyone who bought them as an investment might as well have bought stock in Enron. Adjusted for inflation, present day resale value is a break even proposition at best. On the other hand if you picked up a really nice 1886 Winchester in 1967 for less than $100, as many did, you are looking at a $3500-$5000 value today. A much better investment and a MUCH nicer rifle, in my opinion.
 
Mike Webb said:
I agree 100%. The only way these commemoratives have any real value as collectibles is if they are new in the box with paperwork. Anyone who bought them as an investment might as well have bought stock in Enron. Adjusted for inflation, present day resale value is a break even proposition at best. On the other hand if you picked up a really nice 1886 Winchester in 1967 for less than $100, as many did, you are looking at a $3500-$5000 value today. A much better investment and a MUCH nicer rifle, in my opinion.
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This is definately a post 64 94. The 1st thing I noticed was the stamped metal carrier. I have both post and pre 64 and both have a much better quality carrier.
I do like this particular rifle and my intentions are to use as a hunter/shooter.
 
Huntsman said:
This is definately a post 64 94. The 1st thing I noticed was the stamped metal carrier. I have both post and pre 64 and both have a much better quality carrier.
I do like this particular rifle and my intentions are to use as a hunter/shooter.
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That being the case and in the condition you describe I wouldn't pay over $300 for the rifle.
 
I bought it

I ended paying a meager $450, IMO it was worth it. The seller had them on consignment, It was one 5 94's from his fathers collection and he was looking to sell for his widowed mother. I tried talking the price down lower until I was explained the curcumstances and settled on $450 ;). Condition was better than I thought. What I thought was rust was actually grease or old oil from years of storage. Wood shows some nice grain and steel holds a deep blueing.
I tore her down and gave her a good scrubbing all over, mostly just old oil gunk. I'm quite impressed and happy. The octagonal bbl gives it a nice heft and points really nice. She'll be a nice carry gun whilst hunting :D
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If I had the ca$h I would've bought all 5 of them, there was also a standard 20" bbl Centennial with saddle ring.
 
The receiver on these rifles are actually black chrome plated, just the receiver mind you.
And the wood is very nice indeed.
They do hang very steady with that long 26 inch pipe and seem to be about perfect for offhand shooting.
If you want better accuracy, mount yourself a Williams Foolproof receiver sight instead of using the factory rearsight.
That front tapered post is superior to the usual bead, more often mounted on other Winchester rifles.
You may want to get the jump on feeding issues and replace now that terrible stamped carrier with a machined version.
 
Personally, I think the Win commemoratives make good shooters. I prefer the ones with the silver colored receivers/parts over the gold colored ones. I have a Legendary Lawmen [trapper] SR carbine and a 'Cowboy' SR carbine. Both in .30-30 Win.... Yeah, they are not "pre '64" but then again they don't have the later cross bolt safety in 'em either.

'Course the Cdn centennial model is nice as it is neither silver or 'gold'. Good score on your part. Enjoy your "new to you" rifle... ;)

NAA.
 
Good looking gun.
The only way I'd consider paying anything like that much is if it had been a 38-55...but then I have a soft spot for any hunting rifle in 38-55 :redface:
Or maybe a 32-40 too!
 
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Good looking gun.
The only way I'd consider paying anything like that much is if it had been a 38-55...but then I have a soft spot for any hunting rifle in 38-55 :redface:
Or maybe a 32-40 too!
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38-55 is a caliber of interest too ;) I have (had) a buddy up in Cold Lake Ab who had a beautiful 1894 with 24" bbl that was his goto bear gun.
 
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