Value Precision Rig Opinion

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Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum so I hope I'm posting this in the right section. I've been looking at getting into some target/precision shooting and was looking at getting an accurate bolt gun in .223 that isn't insanely expensive. I'm on a bit of a budget since I'm paying off one student loan just to get another, so I know my options aren't huge. These were the rifles I've been looking at and I'm not sure which to get if either.

Savage model 11 hog hunter - http://www.cabelas.ca/product/62036/savage-11111-hog-hunter-bolt-action-rifle

Savage model 11 trophy predator hunter - http://www.cabelas.ca/product/66523/savage-11-trophy-predator-hunter-xp-mossy-oak-brush-bolt-action-rifle-w-scope

Both have medium contour barrels but the predator is a little longer that the hog, I don't know if that really makes that much of a difference. Anyway, I just wanted to see what other people thought of them, or if there are any other rifles I should consider. Thanks.
 
Working on something right now..... hopefully have the rough build finished end of Jan.

STay tuned...

If you decide to go Savage, they are really nice. Also, consider the Tikka Varmint.

Bottom line, you have to fit the stock more then having the bestest barrel in the world.... at least to start. And the Savage and Tikkas have faster twist so you can use heavier bullets which is nice when you want to stretch out the distances or it gets windy.

Reloading becomes very important as it a good functioning optic. This is where I would suggest you put your limited resources to get the most out of the rifle.

Jerry
 
I love my Savage 10 FCP-K in 223. Laser accurate, but a $25 cheek riser is needed to make the stock fit me. Might be a couple hundy above your budget though. Yeah, what's your budget?

Thanks,
Cal.
 
I'm not sure if you've looked into the Mossberg MVP Varmint. I bought one in 5.56x45 and really like it so far. 1 in 9" heavy barrel likes the 69 grainers, can get a package with bipod and scope. I just bought the gun itself when it was on sale and put a vortex viper 6.5-20x50 on top.
It takes normal AR mags, so you can use 10 round L-AR mags and the 5.56 is a bonus to be able to shoot both ammunition. Check them out.
 
I'm looking at trying to keep it around 600 for just the gun, 700 ish if it comes with a scope. I know the scope and rings would probably be terrible, but id at lest be able to get some trigger time on it.

I have checked out the mvp varmint and I like the idea of ar mags, but I personally don't like the look of the stock and I don't know how much faith I have in that little tab that strips rounds on the bolt (with my luck it would break).

So that's what brought me to the two savages I mentioned. I'm not set on savage (I'd consider other brands too), its just everything else in that price range that I've found has a sporter barrel and I'd rather get something bigger since it will be mostly a target riffle.
 
You could also take a look at the Weatherby Vanguard Series 2. They are fairly cost effective, and you should be able to fit within your price range on the EE. The adjustable trigger is really nice and the fit and feel is much nicer than the savages. They shoot very accurately straight out of the box, but with the right hand load are excellent.
 
Savage makes a heavy barrel version of their Axis now. I just bought one in 243 and I'm very happy so far. For a super tight budget, I think it's a good option. I paid $420, which would leave enough $$$ for at least a Bushnell Tactical 10x scope. This would be way better for learning on than any of the scopes that come on the budget packaged rifles.
 
Savage makes a heavy barrel version of their Axis now. I just bought one in 243 and I'm very happy so far. For a super tight budget, I think it's a good option. I paid $420, which would leave enough $$$ for at least a Bushnell Tactical 10x scope. This would be way better for learning on than any of the scopes that come on the budget packaged rifles.

I think this would be your best bet for keeping it at that cost.
I've been where you are and wouldn't ever use those cheap scopes again.
Looking at 2016 prices, as they have been discussed on the forums lately, you probably wouldn't lose much if you upgraded in a year or 2 once you get the feel and more $
 
Check out Tikka - accurate out of the box. To get great accuracy, no mods needed - at least in my experience. I've got two, both in 6.5x55, and they are both laser beams.

Another rifle I've heard good things about is the Howa 1500 (aka Weatherby Vanguard). I don't have any first hand experience so hopefully others can chime in - if not, you can check out reviews on Youtube by guys like nutnfancy. One interesting thing is they also sell barreled actions, so if you have a particular stock you want (like a Bell and Carlson fibreglass) you can get just the action and save yourself the hassle of having to get rid of an unused stock. Also, there are 5 and 10 round magazine kits available for a lot of different calibres which is why I think once I have some extra cash floating around I will buy a Howa and build myself a 6.5x55 scout-ish rifle.
 
If you decide to go Savage, they are really nice. Also, consider the Tikka Varmint.

Bottom line, you have to fit the stock more then having the bestest barrel in the world.... at least to start. And the Savage and Tikkas have faster twist so you can use heavier bullets which is nice when you want to stretch out the distances or it gets windy.

Reloading becomes very important as it a good functioning optic. This is where I would suggest you put your limited resources to get the most out of the rifle.

Jerry

+1 on all that.
Rule of thumb I use is get a scope worth at least what the rifle is. And I don't know if you reload but if your target shooting and if you're shooting high quality factory ammo, you'll make your money back quick reloading.
 
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