Venom or Viper- best red dot for a glock 17 mos

Best vortex red dot for a glock 17 - venom or viper

  • Voted Venom

    Votes: 15 44.1%

  • Vortex Viper

    Votes: 19 55.9%
  • Total voters
    34
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Decided to drop a micro red dot on a glock 17 mos and narrowed it down to a choice between vortex's slightly larger venom and smaller viper.

Does anyone have any recommendations between the two sights?

I guess the viper is geared soley towards pistols and the larger venom works okay for shotguns and ARs. That could be something down the road but primarily its for a glock 17.
 
I went with the Viper with the 6MOA for Action Shooting. The 6 MOA is easier to pick up quickly vs the 3MOA. The 3 would be better for bullseye shooting.

Look at using a lighter recoil spring on your 17 if you mount an Optic on it. The Optic adds weight to the slide which will slow down when you mount an Optic. The Vortex guarantee is excellent. You should be happy with the Viper if you choose it.

Take Care

Bob
 
I have the viper 6MOA on an M&P 9 Pro CORE. Probably 2000 rounds with the Viper since last spring and no problems with its operation. It is still on the original battery so having to remove it to replace the battery hasn't been an issue. What was an issue was setting it up with the high rear sight on the gun. The lock screws are blocked by the sight so it (the viper) has to be removed to lock the adjustment screws. I was expecting that to be a one time thing but working up loads required some sight adjustment for accuracy. The Viper does co-witness well which was helpful during the transition from iron sights to red dot but not since.
 
Walknby y0ou make a good point on the co-witness feature. I suppose it might be important if you carried the gun for self defense but for shooting the games or plinking I am not so sure the co-witness aspect really comes into play. I found learning to control the recoil became really quite important when shooting an Optic over irons. I initially spent more time "chasing" the damn dot the I did shooting. :>). Once you get the gun going straight up and down life became much easier. I am not the strongest guy on the planet so my gun moves a bit when even shooting the 9MM.

I seem to remember 30,000 hours was the life of a battery but it maybe only 3,000. In any event I plan on changing the battery once a year ...maybe. I have the Viper with a 6MOA and really like it. I am not sure I have gained much, if anything, in terms of accuracy or speed for what I shoot but it is easier to hit the Down Zero in IDPA with the Optic. It may or may not be faster than irons but it feels like it is easier. I guess it depends on your eyes and where you are in shooting ability. I am no Annie Oakley but I am not 'Elmer Fudd either. :>)

Take Care

Bob
 
Had 2 venoms both replaced under warranty, switched to the viper and haven’t had a problem yet on my SP 01.
 
Awesome info thanks a lot guys.

Forgot to initially ask, since I'm mounting a red dot 100% should I order the glock with the higher suppressor sights or stick with regular fixed sights? I see alot of the higher sights in pictures with red dots.
 
Canuck44 said:
Walknby y0ou make a good point on the co-witness feature. I suppose it might be important if you carried the gun for self defense but for shooting the games or plinking I am not so sure the co-witness aspect really comes into play. I found learning to control the recoil became really quite important when shooting an Optic over irons. I initially spent more time "chasing" the damn dot the I did shooting. :>). Once you get the gun going straight up and down life became much easier. I am not the strongest guy on the planet so my gun moves a bit when even shooting the 9MM.

I seem to remember 30,000 hours was the life of a battery but it maybe only 3,000. In any event I plan on changing the battery once a year ...maybe. I have the Viper with a 6MOA and really like it. I am not sure I have gained much, if anything, in terms of accuracy or speed for what I shoot but it is easier to hit the Down Zero in IDPA with the Optic. It may or may not be faster than irons but it feels like it is easier. I guess it depends on your eyes and where you are in shooting ability. I am no Annie Oakley but I am not 'Elmer Fudd either. :>)

Take Care

Bob
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I wear progressives and the red dot was worth it if not for anything but relieving my neck strain. With irons and my prescription I had to tilt my head back to an uncomfortable (not to mention idiotic looking) position. I could have gotten a second pair of glasses just for the range but I didn't want to have to "learn" the new glasses. Better for me to learn the red dot. I'd been shooting a pistol for less than a year so the transition to the dot wasn't nearly as troublesome as I've heard it's been for some. Not that I shoot it great by any means but I'm consistent and getting better.
 
I have a 3MOA Viper on a Canik TPSFX. I have been using it for IPSC.

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My scores are much better than with irons. My old eyes like the dot.

I have no idea how long the battery lasts, but having to re-zero does not scare me.
 
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