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Hi Folks,

I have a Viet Nam Era Factory 66 Chinese Tokarev. I'm trying to figure out what this one is worth in Canada. They are worth a small fortune in the states and are relatively rare. Prices from my online research ranged from approximately 500 to 600 on the low end and as high as $2500 (with documents). The ones in existence were brought back by veterans as war trophies more or less.

This one has all matching serial numbers with exception of the magazines. There are no importation markings on the gun. There are 3 Chinese symbols on the top of the slide along with the serial number and on the frame is the serial number and a 66 stamping. there is also an "E" stamped on either side of the frame at the front of the trigger guard. Also, there is no manual safety on this gun as there is on newer productions but rather, a half cocked hammer position.

Could anyone knowledgeable please shed some light :) Many thanks in advance!











 
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It is interesting but I think it is worth much more in the states then you would ever get for it here. Vietnam was an American war after all.

I like the TT-33. I have 3 of them myself but I can't imagine paying $500 for one no matter how 'rare' it is. $200? sure. It looks to be in good condition. Maybe even $250 for the novelty of it.

For most of us it is just a Chinese Tok.
 
Like most milsurps they seem to sell higher state side, hence the joe salters ect... Picking up pieces here and exporting what they can. That is a very nice rare piece and worth more then your run of the mil tt33 but sadly would not fetch the big dollars up here.
 
Thanks for the input gents. That's pretty much what I figured but it never hurts to ask the experts :) I ran into the same thing a couple years back with a pair of consecutive serial number HK 91's i owned.... Worth a fortune in the states....not so much here.
 
veeshooter said:
Hi Folks,

I have a Viet Nam Era Factory 66 Chinese Tokarev. I'm trying to figure out what this one is worth in Canada. They are worth a small fortune in the states and are relatively rare. Prices from my online research ranged from approximately 500 to 600 on the low end and as high as $2500 (with documents). The ones in existence were brought back by veterans as war trophies more or less.

This one has all matching serial numbers with exception of the magazines. There are no importation markings on the gun. There are 3 Chinese symbols on the top of the slide along with the serial number and on the frame is the serial number and a 66 stamping. there is also an "E" stamped on either side of the frame at the front of the trigger guard. Also, there is no manual safety on this gun as there is on newer productions but rather, a half cocked hammer position.

Could anyone knowledgeable please shed some light :) Many thanks in advance!











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Although its nice and genuine Chinese type 54. It has no ties to Vietnam war as it was manufactured in 1980s.
 
live4therut said:
Like most milsurps they seem to sell higher state side, hence the joe salters ect... Picking up pieces here and exporting what they can. That is a very nice rare piece and worth more then your run of the mil tt33 but sadly would not fetch the big dollars up here.
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Pretty good shape for a war trophy, given what we know about the Viet Cong way of waging war. :confused:

Grizz
 
Rule of thumb. If its really expensive in the USA and cheap in Canada, it's because the ATF has rendered in non-importable and what is in the USA is all there is going to be.

See Toks, SVT-40, Machine Guns, US Milsurps, etc etc.

Guns aren't expensive. Governments make guns expensive.
 
Hi gewehr76,

How would you determine that? From what I gathered, all the newer production models had the manual safety installed. As I mentioned before, I'm definitely no expert on this gear so any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
 
veeshooter said:
Hi gewehr76,

How would you determine that? From what I gathered, all the newer production models had the manual safety installed. As I mentioned before, I'm definitely no expert on this gear so any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
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The safety was done for a run of US pistols that never got delivered due to Clinton's ban...still millions that were never converted.
 
All genuine type 54 tokarevs that are made by China for either export or internal use have serial number starting in millions. How it started is a bit in history. In 1954 Chruschev gave Mao as a gift from Soviet people to friendly Chinese prolitariate production rights of Tula factory tokarev pistols. And Peoples Liberation Army (PLA) adopted TT33 same year as a type 54. Like all communist countries that were influenced by russian weapons design were given the latest specks and machinery at the time. Thus if you compare the post war soviet tokarev with fine slide serrations vers type 54 you see that they are almost the same. Production started in factory 66, and serial numbers were started by one millionth digit in part to confuse the west in the amount of pistols that are made and in part to be accurate about it. Any way 1954 is the year of adoption is the first million of serial numbering system. Each year since then add one million to serial numbers of true genuine type 54 pistols. Wether it has a safety or not it makes no difference, even some 9 mm toks that made by China have the same numbering. As long as its type 54 it will have serial in millions and the number of millions is the year of manufacture. So 28 millions were made in 1981. If your tok was made during lets say 1967 at the height of Vietnam war it would have had 14 million serial number.
Marstar sells right now Type 54s that have 59 million serial numbers and they are recently imported ones from China.
Here are some photos of my toks enjoy




 
veeshooter said:
Hi Folks,

I have a Viet Nam Era Factory 66 Chinese Tokarev. I'm trying to figure out what this one is worth in Canada. They are worth a small fortune in the states and are relatively rare. Prices from my online research ranged from approximately 500 to 600 on the low end and as high as $2500 (with documents). The ones in existence were brought back by veterans as war trophies more or less.

This one has all matching serial numbers with exception of the magazines. There are no importation markings on the gun. There are 3 Chinese symbols on the top of the slide along with the serial number and on the frame is the serial number and a 66 stamping. there is also an "E" stamped on either side of the frame at the front of the trigger guard. Also, there is no manual safety on this gun as there is on newer productions but rather, a half cocked hammer position.

Could anyone knowledgeable please shed some light :) Many thanks in advance!











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I have a type 54 marked/dated 1969 , instead of "E" marking mine is marked "4" same letters on top of slide . something you could get from a dealer years back for $99 .
 
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