Vintage & Sporting Rifle Shoots at Winona (Hamilton area)

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Vintage & Sporting Rifle Shoot

Winona Range at 8:00. Pack a lunch or Soup and Sandwich at Harvey’s or Swiss Chalet. Hope to finish around 3:00.

• May 27
• July 29
• October 14

Practice dates at Winona (300 yard shooting beside the Swiss Club)

• June 9
• July 22
• October 7

Rifles: bring what ever rifle(s) you want to try out. 100 to 300 yard shooting is easy for any milsurp, black rifle or hunting rifle.

Bring out a rifle or two and do some shooting. Remember that we shoot most of the 100 yard stage from the standing position, so a 20X target scope would not be a good choice.

Please don’t let the program intimidate you. The Range Officer will explain each step as we progress through the program. Just make sure you bring a rifle(s), enough matching ammo and ear protection.

As usual, we will have a fine selection of $6 wine as prizes….

We will start at 100 yards and then move back. This is a course of fire that allows us to zero the rifles at each distance and then shoot from various positions. All shooting will be on the same target, known as the fig. 11.

N.B. Prone shooting can use a rest, so long as the rifle rests on a hand, with the back of the hand on the rest. (I rest my hand on an ammo can.)

N.B. Before each deliberate match you will have 5 minutes of sighting shots. The target will be pulled and a red spotter added for each new hole. For each match you will fire a string of 10 shots. After the shoot the target will be displayed with a red plastic spotting disk in each bullet hole, so you can see where your scoring hits were.



100 yards

Deliberate from the prone position on the 4 foot target. 5 minutes sighting shots for zero, and then 10 shots on score. We shoot this from the prone position so you can start the day with a real good zero.
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10 shots Standing Snap. 10 exposures of 3 seconds each. 1 shot per exposure. 2 sighting shots.
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10 shots Standing at Moving target. One sighter in each direction. (Our experience is that the target does not require any lead at 100 yards to hit it.)

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200 yards (all shooting from prone position)

Deliberate on the 4 foot target. 5 minutes sighting shots for zero, and then 10 shots on score.

10 shots prone Snap. 10 exposures of 3 seconds each. 1 shot per exposure.
2 sighting shots.

10 shots prone at Moving target. One sighter in each direction. (Our experience is that the target requires about 6” lead in front of target center to hit it.)


300 yards (all shooting from prone position)

Deliberate on the 4 foot target. 5 minutes sighting shots for zero, and then 10 shots on score.

10 shots prone Snap. 10 exposures of 3 seconds each. 2 sighting shots.

10 shots prone at Moving target. One sighter in each direction. (Our experience is that the target requires about 12” lead, the leading edge of the target, to hit it.)

Ammo required 120 minimum (more if you take a lot of practice shots)

Note: This is a lot of shooting. You do not have to use the same rifle at each distance or for all stages. You could, for example, shoot a different rifle for each distance. For the Snap and Mover there is plenty of time to re-load the rifle between exposures. I have shot it with a single shot rifle.

Squadding: Shooters will be assigned 4 per target lane. Two will shoot while 2 go to the butts to mark targets and keep score. After shooting the shooters will go to the butts to take over marking duties while the markers comes out of the butts to shoot. After both relays have had their turn shooting, we will move back to the next distance and repeat the procedure.

With two shooters on the firing point, taking turns shooting the 3 matches it is easy to shoot with your buddy, to share rifles or to shoot with your wife or kid.

Cost: $20 for ORA members, $40 for non-members.

PM me for more info or to let me know you are attending.
 
Ganderite failing a work emergency I will be there in May. I will bring good Russian iron to shot against capitalist rifle. Glory for the rodinya. (quote is best read in bad Russian accent.)
 
Can anyone attend this?......Do I need to be a member of a certain club or can I come bring my Rifle and pay a fee......Sorry for the noob Questions.....lol
 
So what is a Deliberate match?

10 aimed shots in 5 minutes. As opposed to a SNAP match where the target pops up for 3 seconds (10 times) or a MOVER match, where the target walks 12 feet (10 times).

This is all casual shooting for the fun of it. If you have some rifles you want to try out, this is the opportunity. I am going to try a #4T and my CZ858.
 
Fred - Brig the GF or the wife (but not both!!). No need for a PAL to shoot with you. You two can share the same target.

Our system is perfect for two people who want to shoot together. One shoots the deliberate shoot and then the other. Then one shoots the Snap, then the other. You could even share a rifle if you wanted.

A SKS is a good rifle for a woman or kid. It is about an inch shorter in the butt than most rifles, and does not kick hard.
 
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Ganderite.......I had a great time last year but unfortunately cannot attend this year....but you can still send me that #4 i shot last year. i will even pay postage. Fantastic gun.
 
Hey look it's me! :D I am somewhat more beardly now then when that photo was taken, I must warn you... ;)

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I can not make it for tomorrow, I have too much work on my plate, but I am going to try and set aside some time for the June/July shoots.

Hope to see you there.
 
Vintage & Sporting Rifle Shoots at Winona (Hamilton area)

Rifles: bring what ever rifle(s) you want to try out. 100 to 300 yard shooting is easy for any milsurp, black rifle or hunting rifle.

Just curious!

When and why did the use of black rifles and or hunting rifles enter the scene of the Vintage Shoot?

Years ago, I recall it being a Vintage Military Rifle shoot only.

Black rifles and sporting where not allowed.

Are the Black rifles and sporting put into different classifications within the shoot itself?
 
The match director owns and appreciates many different types of rifles and understands that thet can all be enjoyed equally at the same time at the same event.

This is a for fun event, bring what you want and shoot it. Smiles are a direct result.

I have no problem with that at all.

The more the merrier.

This does not answer my questions though;

When and why did the use of black rifles and or hunting rifles enter the scene of the Vintage Shoot?

Are the Black rifles and sporting put into different classifications within the shoot itself?

Years ago, lets just say, not too many years ago,
Black Rifles and the use of Sporting rifles was a BIG NO at the ORA Vintage shoots at Winona and Base Borden.

The Winona Range and me go back as far as 1971. (Cadets - Military - ORA - Swiss and private club use)
 
It's really more of a fun shoot with encouragement for shooters to bring out Vintage rifles. There are 10 vintage today with one modern bolt action and one black rifle.

I'm not sure yet how the prizes are being awarded or if there are classes. I will be excusing my black rifle from prize consideration due to technical superiority (not shooter superiority). I'm just here to have fun and get some positional practice beyond 100 yards.
 
To answer the question about when sporters were allowed, they were always allowed, but not eligible for prizes. Then we made a class for them, but so few of them show up it is not really an issue.

fact is that when it comes to snap shooting and hitting a moving target the big variable is the shooter not the rifles. The object of the exercise is to give gun owners a chance to shoot at longer ranges and different shooting drills than the local club can offer.



16 CGNrs had a blast. There were 3 father/son combos there.

I was very surprised to see a SKS doing very, very well and a bone stock Norc 305 (M14) shooting excellent groups (with match ammo).

Saw a SVT40 with a scope, a Mosin Nagant, 3 sks rifles, a Remington Sendero in 7 mag, 2 Lee Enfields, a repro MN Sniper (mine) and a AR15.

Weather was excellent, cool and overcast.

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