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Hello All,

Looking for some info on a rifle I recently acquired. It's stamped Voere Kufstein/Austria, LA Distributing New York mod 2150. Its chambered in a 7mm rem mag.
It also has stamped on it: Laufstahl 3 (which apparently is the steel used) and NP 69?

Can anybody shed some light/history on this rifle? Its incredibly light and feels as though its balanced well. The stock could use some love? Wondering also if its worth restoring it or just add it to the quiver?

Thanks,

Schlash
 
This thread may have some of the answers that you are looking for:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114921&highlight=voere
 
Voere rifles

Voere rifles are some of the better quality manufactured rifles. They made both rimfire and center fire rifles.

If it is a bit worn in the stock as you say, it is definitely a candidate for a restoration. The quality of the wood should be very good, and some TLC should give you a very nice looking rifle.

The Voere is a higher quality rifle, but does not seem to be as recognized as other makers.......too bad. People don't know what they are missing.

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They also made lower quality guns[not as nicely finished but functional] on ex military 98 actions.......................Harold
 
mbogo3 said:
They also made lower quality guns[not as nicely finished but functional] on ex military 98 actions.......................Harold
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Yup my grandfather owns one built on the Mauser 98 action, chambered in .308 Norma Mag.

I couldnt take enough pictures to show all the medals him and my father won with it shooting in grass roots competitions back in the day. That gun is downright scary accurate.:sniper:
 
Thanks for all the info.

Took it to the range today to "test drive" my new acquisition. I was pleasantly surprised with the 1" groupings at 100 yards. I think I'm going to keep her.
 
Schlash...

I have the exact same rifle, and acquired it new approximately 40 years ago. I believe that particular model was almost a "promo" rather than a high end production. Though I have a good variety of centrefires now, the 7mm Rem mag Voere was my only big game rifle for a number of years. The action has been sloppy since day 1, but the rifle has always been reliable, accurate, and easy to carry. I had the metalwork tefloned, and did a full refurbish of the stock with a hand rubbed oil finish several years ago. I also had a muzzle brake installed by Corlane Sports in Dawson Creek. I found the recoil more than I wanted to deal with as I got older. The resulting decrease in felt recoil, and the elimination of a lot of the muzzle jump in such a light rifle made it much more pleasant to shoot, and resulted in a noticeable improvement in my groups. It is frequently still my go to gun when I know there is a likelihood of facing longer shots at large game. Just my opinion of course, but I definitely think your rifle is worthy of some refurbishing and TLC.
 
M98 Voeres were made with actions from a whole bunch of different makers. If you're lucky enough to score one of the WW1 original German actions or a FN or Argentinian action, then you have a very good rifle. If, on the other hand, you get one with a Yugo action, you have nothing more than a fairly good barrel with pretty wood mated to one of the worst M98 actions made to date. Mine seems to be one of the latter, although it still shoots nice groups, the action has a hard time feeding the rounds from the mag into the chamber. :mad:
 
Gun Lover,
Do you soot reloads or commercial ammos? I ask this because some actions have steep feeding ramps and those usually don't feed the long and pointed bullets very well. You somtimes ned to shorten the OAL of you ammo to make it feed properly if you don't want to alter the feed ramp.

There were a lot of threads here on the Voere, and the last new Voere I saw/discussed of were somewhat sloppy, to say the least. I'd personally go with a new Zastava before a late Voere, but the older ones made before about ten years ago and before seems to be of much better overall quality the 2165 usually are better finished than the 2155, too.
 
Hi there Baribal, I do remember the other threads, I started at least one of them. ;)

Yes I do shoot reloads, but I am aware of the OAL factor and tried everything from shorter to longer than manual suggested OAL, with three different bullets. I even some fairly old surplus stuff that I still have (.30-06), but still had the same problem; some of the rounds just jump in front of the extractor when coming out of the mag. I also tried a couple of other remedies, but none has corrected this problem 100%. I believe only a feed lip and/or feed ramp rework would fix it, but I'm just not up to it and don't know anybody qualified to do the work. :(

FWIW, the two step feed ramp on my Voere is a bit shallower and the second step longer than on my other Mausers. With the pointy Hornady GMX bullets a longer OAL seemed to work better, but I ran out of mag space before the problem was fully corrected.
 
First, does your Voere have a Voere follower like the one below? (was it the one with the wrong bolt? - if so, was this fixed?)

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It can be very hard to fix a feeding problem over the net, but you first need to understand what happens. When you push the round (take one within SAAMI's OAL limits), it's supposed to enter in a quite straight line, without rising too much at the point..
To me, your problem(s) come from the follower....
If it's the style pictured above, i'd personally change it for a K98 one, just to see.
 
I agree, it would be almost impossible to fix this problem over the net.

My follower is not like the one on your pic, it is a military M98 follower, which has been modified only by filing an angle at the rear left corner to allow closing of the bolt with an empty mag. I still believe it's a feed lips problem, although they too look a lot like the feed lips on my other M98. I am convinced even a very minor difference in angle at the lips might cause the problems :(
 
well, then, I'm not sure if you problem does not come from NOT having the "Voere" follower... I do not have the 2165 in hands to verify it, I sold it.... but the lip itself should have a slight "curve" shape from the back to the front of the lip itself (slightly visible on the picture) and a sommewhat rounded bottom, where the side of the cartridge meets the bottom of the lip.
Then, I don't remember if Voere used to modify the lip for "functional" use of their own follower... I can have a look at the Voere, but it will be later, when I meet my friend.... I'll keep you posted...
 
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