voere rifles?

a j cave said:
I had a 270 way back in the 70s, the head space was very bad! Could not reload for it. I would check with no go gauge if I was looking at another.
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Doesn't seem right that any manufacturer would like a rifle leave the factory without checking the headspace. Is it possible the gun had a run in with a bad gunsmith? Lapped the lugs too much or Improperly?

Not what I was expecting to hear....

Keep it comin guys
 
I've seen a few and had one Voere rifle built on a military receiver. I've also seen some built with commercial Mauser actions. As for headspace, excess can be had in any rifle depending on manufacture or use.
Baribal is the guy to talk to regarding Mauser based actions.
 
I have owned a 7x57 2155 and a 30-06 2165. If I remember correctly, they were both built from Spanish Commercial M98 actions, but I believe they got their start with converting military surplus actions. Slim 24" barrels, very light. I always thought of them as perfect "mountain rifles" from before the term was used. Both of mine had the tang safety - like on a shotgun. Worked very well, but you must be very certain to have bedding inspected - I would recommend glass bedding the recoil lug as a matter of course - the extra inletting required behind the tang for the safety makes the wrist very susceptible to splitting if the recoil lug has any movement.
Google will show there are/were two Voere companies - the one that I had was Kurfstein, in Austria. There is another (German, I think) that got mixed up with Kleinguenther in Texas.
 
Actually, Voere used (and still does) either military or commercial actions, but they used much more military actions of many origins as they get them bulk non-refurbed for cheap to put a lot of work on them.
The 2165 is the higher grade while the 2155 is the economic grade. But in fact, there are so many options avaialable that you can end up with a 2165 almost being a 2165.
All the rifles leaving Austria (and Germany for the first ones) went through CIP's proofing and approval, which is much more demanding than SAAMI, so there's no way a rifle will leave the factory with bad headspace.

If you narrow your question, I might be able to help.
 
We have a Voere-Kufstein .22lr that's been in the family since the very early 70s. The original mag is gone but aftermarket mags and good housekeeping have kept it in near perfect operating condition. It still has the original Tasco scope. It's been used for target practice and critter control on the farm.
 
I have two Voere Black Forest models in 308 Norma Mag and 243 my grandfather who gave them to me also had another identical to them in 30-06 when he passed it disappeared figured it went to his son who would have sold it for the cash.

Excellent made rifles that I will never part with.
 
I own a 2165 its a real work of art... Beautiful wood smooth action top of the line machining... Only option on it I can't figure out is the six staggered slash vent muzzle brake. Haven't seen that on another anywheres yet... I'd recommend voere any day well made guns.
 
Just to clarify, the 270 with head space problem was a new gun from "Lock & Key" in Red Deer. Emil Hermary, a well known and respected gun smith, sold it to me and dig the no go test when I returned it. The gun was a commercial action. So some guns got through CC. I gave a honest reply to the OP question and do not like the implication that I fabracated the story!
 
Had no intention of offending you... I assumed the gun had a previous owner who may have messed with it. I wonder if it was a Spanish mauser they built yours on. They're known for lug setback because of inferior metals. I was under the impression that they were German/ Czech but I'm no expert.
It's too bad you had a bad experience though and I will use caution when looking at any voere mausers. Especially the former military models.
 
Have one in 22-250 ...that did split the stock through three faces at the tang...a boyds stock fixed it. Old enouh to have irons, pencil barrel, and very accurate...but with the light contour barrel a predator not rodent gun.

I also have a Kliengunther based on a Voerre that started life as a 300 WM and has been rebarreled to 300 Rum. Heavy barrel, very heavy to pack and has both a break and a mercury tube so insignificant recoil....but the muzzle blast kills the animal if the bullet misses...lol. Beanfield ...seizmic rifle.
 
I have a fairly old Voere 7mm rem mag. I'd guess it to be 20 or 30 years old. It's still my main hunting gun. I get a pretty easy 2 or 3 inch group at 100 yards from and unsupported sitting position, have never really had a problem with it. It isn't any amount of a tac driver accuracy wise, but it's a good, reliable bush gun that puts meat in my freezer.
 
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