Is VV worth the money and temp stable, is there reloader from alliant that is temp stable? Looking to try different powders for my 30-06 and 280 for speed and accuracy. But during deer season it's +15 one day and -15 the next. Need actual experience and opinions.
VV and reloader questions
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Temp differences for hunting purposes will NOT make any difference. Factory ammo is used more than reloading with no noticeable differences.
VV powder is excellent powder have used it in 6 x 47L for target shooting great results.
VV powder is excellent powder have used it in 6 x 47L for target shooting great results.
10 years ago I pulled apart a core lokt, it had log powder. Last fall at -15 I shot a buck and hit much lower than I was aiming. I sighted in at about +18. Pulled one apart after deer season, now it's ball powder.
Aside from that I've heard of gnarly pressure swings with reloader. But most people look past that for it's accuracy and speed. Haven't read a whole lot on VV cause people say it's too expensive, but I like options
I've got H4350 for the 30-06, it either wants it stupid hot or 53.5 grains to achieve accuracy. I don't like playing with fire, but I also don't wanna use a 30/30 know what I mean? Haven't even fired off the first batch for the 280 loaded with H4831 yet.
Thanks man, might give it a go.
RL15, RL16, RL23, RL26, RL33 are temp stable
I use RL23 and 26 in my 280 with good results. I have Viht n560 and 565 but haven't used them much yet
RL16 would be good in 30-06
In my testing, I have found the following averages for temp shifts from -15c to +29c
Hodgdon extreme powders - 19 fps
Alliant stable powders - 20 fps
IMR Enduron powders - 41 fps
Regular sensitive powders (RL22, IMR 4831 etc) 83 fps
Ball powders (Win 748, Win 760, H414) 90 fps
Most of the variation is from +13c to +29c. Not as much difference from +13c to -15c
I use RL23 and 26 in my 280 with good results. I have Viht n560 and 565 but haven't used them much yet
RL16 would be good in 30-06
In my testing, I have found the following averages for temp shifts from -15c to +29c
Hodgdon extreme powders - 19 fps
Alliant stable powders - 20 fps
IMR Enduron powders - 41 fps
Regular sensitive powders (RL22, IMR 4831 etc) 83 fps
Ball powders (Win 748, Win 760, H414) 90 fps
Most of the variation is from +13c to +29c. Not as much difference from +13c to -15c
Thank you! That's what I'm looking for. Didn't know alliant had stable powders. What burn rate is rl-16 compared to 4350?
Very similar, but a little quicker in my experience
Hmmm... I use 180 grain, think it'd be too fast? Maybe 23 would be better? Or too slow?
I'd go with RL16 in a 30-06, even with 180gr. It will give more FPS than 4350, but at less pressure.
Last summer I ran RL17, H4350 and RL26 head to head against each other, ramping up the charge weights after each trip. 30-06 24", 180gr bullets. RL26 was the fastest, but not as accurate. RL17 is very similar to 16, results are almost identical. H4350 is accurate, but gives up some FPS
Last summer I ran RL17, H4350 and RL26 head to head against each other, ramping up the charge weights after each trip. 30-06 24", 180gr bullets. RL26 was the fastest, but not as accurate. RL17 is very similar to 16, results are almost identical. H4350 is accurate, but gives up some FPS
RL16 as accurate as H4350?
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have you used much rl33? i have done alot of reading about rl33 and seems like more people found it not a stable temp wise as others. i would love to try it but don't want to waste my time and money at the same time. in a 264 win mag btw. rl33 gives outstanding velocities ive read yes. other powder guys like is us869 but is a ball powder and isnt temp stable at all
Gonna get a can today then! What would you suggest for 280 in stable RL if 4831 don't work?
I've used RL33 in 6.5 PRC, 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler. Haven't done any temp testing with it yet
RL23
Thank you sir!
My man you drove it outta the park with R-16 in 30-06! That stuffs the tits! To the point I'm gonna buy a 8 pound keg of it! Every charge from least you max shot a 1/4" at the biggest!
