VZ-858 Magazine Tune-Up Technique

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"Disclaimer - all the original magazines that came with my VZ purchases fit the firearms perfectly - It was only the surplus magazines I purchased in "bulk" that had this issue".


So I get my on sale "surplus" magazines from Wolverine today.
Take them out of the paper wrapper and while used they appear pretty good.
They've got the standard "gunk" in them indicating they've been sitting for a long time.

Exterior looks good with minor scuff marks. Several of them appear to have been repainted at one time in their lives.

However, only 1 of the 7 magazines fits the receiver (i.e. they are too wide).

Sitting down at my workshop bench I begin to examine them and observe the following:

1. Paint is pretty thick on some of the magazines.
2. Looks like grit and other crap got on the magazine body prior to inserting into the receiver. Softer aluminimum mags had embedded "scratches" where grit embedded itself in magazine while inserting/removing from firearm.
3. Some of the magazines appeared to have a sticky residue on them on the portion that mates to the receiver.
4. Most of the mags fit fine at the rear but had "issues" with the front of the magazine where it locks into the front of the receiver.

In order to get the magazines to fit (and not screw up the feed lips/bullet geometry) I performed the following on each "fat" mag.

1. Cleaned mag with gun solvent to remove the sticky residue. I suspect this was from magazines stored in the firearm over a period of time and the gun oil migrated into the painted magazine - softening it up somewhat.

2. Took a medium grit foam sanding pad and scuffed up the magazine (not removing any paint to bare metal) to take off any residual sticky stuff and knock down any high spots due to paint build-up and/or scratches.

3. Then took a small woodworking quickclamp and placing it near the front of the magazine (not any where near the feed lips) I proceeded to ratchet the clamp fairly tight. Note - the follower prevents you from over-tightening the sidewalls. At no time while clamping did the follower bind (I constantly moved it while I was clamping to determine when to stop).

4. On a couple of stubborn magazines I had to do this 2-3 times until it fit properly. Running a straight edge across the side of the magazine showed how much it was bowing out. Note - the rubber cushion on the clamp has a lot of give which prevents you from over-clamping the magazine. Make sure you use the smaller ones (6" travel). Repeated process until straight edge showed minimum bow - test fitted to rifle in order to get nice fit.

5. Final step was to give the outside of the magazine a quick wipe to clean any sanded residue.

Test fitting showed clean magazine insertions where before they wouldn't go in.

I suppose you might be able to tweak the magazines to allow for a sloppier fit (read: faster insertion) but I just did it enough to be able to insert the magazine with the same force as my other "good" mags.

As always, your mileage may vary, and I am not responsible for any ham-fisted mistakes trying to duplicate my efforts.


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Bought a new CZ this year and 3 out of 4 magazines had serious fitting issues, The 4th one looked used and it was fitting fairly nice.

I measured them all and thought the same as you first, paint and gunk, but didn't come to the same conclusion. There wasn't enough space for my taste to clamp and press them.

I just filed/sanded them all down, hell of a (hand) job but they all work like a dream now.

Some blueing for protection, looks a bit odd but painting them (top part) didn't make any sense to me. but they can be changed now very quickly without much play.
 
I have 2 rifles, one receiver is noticeable tighter than the other.

At any rate, i was tired of sticky mag changes - The receiver was leaving scratch marks in the Magazines.

So i took a sanding wheel? Its like a dremel attachment with 50 sheets of sand paper on it, and went to town on it for about 5 seconds a peice, stripped off all the paint, made it nice and smooth and it slides in real nice now.

The other crazy thing I did... The one receiver that was really tight - I found a nice wooden wedge that fit into the receiver, heated up the receiver with a torch for a minute then gently tapped in the wedge a bit (and I mean a #### hair!) - it loosened it up ever so slightly and now the mags slide in and out perfect.

^^ I don't recommend doing this as clearly I have no idea what im doing :)
 
Just use them, they'll wear in. You have to change mags every 5 rounds, it won't take long for that paint to wear down with 1200rd crates as cheap as they are...
 
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