Walnut to plastic?

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While listening to Tony Bernardo of the CSSA talk with Brian Lilley today, he mentioned that manufacturers of firearms moved from traditional walnut and wood stocks simply to be more cost affective, as the price had increased and gotten to expensive. This I did not know. How much truth you figure is behind this? Could be a good argument for why black rifles are "scary".

Discuss.
 
I believe he is correct about the move from wood to plastic.

First we saw a move from quality walnut to cheaper woods such as beech (walnut finished) in the lower cost rifles.

Then some bean counter realized that they could recycle plastic pop bottles into gun stocks, convince the masses that the plastic was somehow "superior" in many ways (won't crack, twist, rot etc etc) and go from a stock that might contain 200 bucks worth of wood (ok maybe not on the scale they would buy at, but a "cheap" walnut blank will run you a couple of bills and a fancy one can go way over a grand), to one that has a couple bucks worth of plastic.

And maybe he is on to something about the black stocks - Weatherby's plastic stocks are grey. Remington and Howa have made some green ones. Then there is all the camo patterns that are "obviously" hunting rifles - like you might hold up an armoured car with a "black" 700 SPS but you would never do it with the Camo version - right :)
 
Well. IMO the point of his statements are these guns are no different than if they were placed in wood stocks. Maybe the anti' and zealots would feel better if the AR-15 was sold in a wood stock. But shouldn't we be recycling plastic? It's better for the environment. See! Gun owners are doing there part too! Because its 2015.

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It looks good in wood. I'm sure the original reason for manufacturers was originally to cut costs, all the while selling us the idea thats its much more durable and weather resistant. I'd bet most synthetic stocks cost less than $3.00 or so a piece to make.
 
Well. IMO the point of his statements are these guns are no different than if they were placed in wood stocks. Maybe the anti' and zealots would feel better if the AR-15 was sold in a wood stock. But shouldn't we be recycling plastic? It's better for the environment. See! Gun owners are doing there part too! Because its 2015.

"Because its 2015". His answer to everything (JT). What a goof.
 
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Well. IMO the point of his statements are these guns are no different than if they were placed in wood stocks. Maybe the anti' and zealots would feel better if the AR-15 was sold in a wood stock. But shouldn't we be recycling plastic? It's better for the environment. See! Gun owners are doing there part too! Because its 2015.

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Replace the handle with a scope or some peepe sights AND PUT 10 round mag in it and people won't know the difference between it and a cowboy gun
 
Molded plastic SHOULD be FAR cheaper than checkered and stained walnut, yet the black guns are way more expensive than they should be.
 
I bought the rifle once and decided to safe $50 and go with plastic (it seemed a good idea, rain is not the issue, safe $50). At the end, I consider this decision to be the worst decision ever... I should have bought wood stock.
 
Those wood SP1 rifles were produced by Colt back in about 1980ish. I'm not 100% sure what the finish was, silver anodize????

Very, very collectable now.
 
If I remember correctly, FRT had a comment from RCMP on the gun (G3 I believe) that was a sport model with wood furniture, which stated something along these lines: "Wood furniture makes the gun to look less evil, but we prohibited it anyway as the same gun with plastic furniture is evil and already prohibited". If someone has access to FRT, see if you can find it.
 
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