Walther PPQ as an alternative to G19 and Hk P-30

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Hi,

Not too much said about these pistols, they seem to have good reviews and have a good trigger for a striker-fired pistol. Are they prevalent in Canada and for those that own them, how do you like them? Compared to the Glock and Hk, how have they been?
 
Well to start, the P-30 is a hammer-fired pistol unlike the Glock and PPQ. The P-30 has a model with an option for double-action only. Regardless, the Glock 19 and the PPQ are typical of DAO striker fired pistols, whereas the P-30 will provide you with the better single action.

The P-30 is also the most expensive down to the Glock being the least. I own 2 Glocks, none of which are the 19. Its just a smaller version of the 17 that needs to have a protruding "Canada Legal Length" barrel.

All good guns, after having 2 Glocks already, I have actually been looking at the P-30 a lot lately since one of the shops in Vancouver has them in stock.
 
PPQ is exquisitely accurate, equal to HK P30 but with a much better trigger, with shorter reset, and much more affordable too.
 
BurnabySoldier said:
Well to start, the P-30 is a hammer-fired pistol unlike the Glock and PPQ. The P-30 has a model with an option for double-action only. Regardless, the Glock 19 and the PPQ are typical of DAO striker fired pistols, whereas the P-30 will provide you with the better single action.
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All Glocks are striker-fired, which means they're neither DAO, or SAO. Sort of in between.
The striker spring is partially cocked until the trigger is pulled.

Walther says their striker is 100% cocked, which would make it more like a SAO with a trigger safety.
I'd really like to shoot a PPQ to see the difference between the 2 triggers.


I have only held the PPQ in a gun store, but I really like the way it feels. I have a g19 that I love shooting, and I'd like to add a ppq to my collection one of these days too.
I've read mixed reviews on Walther's reliability and I don't like the odd mag release.
Those 2 points are why I chose to buy the g19 first.
 
I had the PPQ in 9mm..........the most accurate pistol I've ever had, the rigger is a marvel in my opinion. I sold it because of that extended barrel was driving me nuts and I couldn't trim it to get rid of the threaded section. I'll buy the 40SW version for sure when it gets here, I don't like the 40 but i'll get it just because the barrel is flush with the slide on this version, and I love the ppq.
 
The PPQ hasn't been around all that long so it doesn't have the track record of the other two to analyze, performance wise.

That said, clearly the early reports are very good. I'm personally so invested in Glock mags and holsters and so on that I'm not switching. But the PPQ is the first pistol that's made me think about it.
 
I have a PPQ brand new and only proof fired at the factory, and took it to the range for the first time this Sunday and shot 200 rounds of AE/Fedral 115grain FMJ.

My only prior experience with pistols is with the range's rental Glock22, and I am by no means an expert so me showing you guys my targets wouldn't really be of any use since I suck with everything equally.

I am not sure why, it's really only speculation as to the cause, but in my first 20 rounds I had six failures to fire. I shoot one, second cartridge chambers and I pull the trigger and click nothing happens. I wait, eject mag, empty the chamber and inspect the primer and it has no mark on it at all. Complete nonstrike from what I could see. I put it back in the mag and shoot two more and then it happens again, same thing with no visible strike on primer. Round goes back into the mag, shoots fine but the next one fails to fire as well. Rest of the mag shoots fine. The second mag has three in a row, but each of them shoots fine the second time they are put in the mag and chambered. Number 2 and 3 from the second mag show light primer strikes. I ask one of the ROs to take a look at it and he shoots 2 rounds with it and it works perfect.
The next 180 rounds shoot fine. A few of the primers show really weird primer strikes, looks like an oblong splash rather than a single impact mark. However I searched the other brass piles nearby and a whole bunch of other people's ammo is looking the same as well. Would that be caused by high pressure? I'll try to get some quality pictures of my primers tomorrow, because some of the strikes look kinda funky.

So, might have just been growing pains. Maybe I missed some grease while cleaning, or maybe it was being influenced from the spirit world. Maybe gremlins.

After the initial troubles the gun shot fine, felt great, and clicked and banged as appropriate. I'm still working on my grip and stance and all that stuff so my groups suck beyond belief, but I'm hitting paper at least. My theory is that maybe I had some grease/lube/hairs or something on the striker and that was causing it to gum up. Entirely possible that's it, because the gun worked fine after it got warmed up. I'm still detail cleaning it looking for possible evidence. Could have easily been a case of hydraulic firing pin.
If someone in Edmonton wants to get hands on it, let me know and I can meet up with you at Phoenix. I'd appreciate a second opinion.
 
It's a very obscure problem and I can't think of what would cause that save, as you said, possibly grease etc in the FP channel. Glock brass will always have that characteristic oblong striker mark on the primer but I don't know what the shape of the PPQ striker is so whether that's normal or not I couldn't say.

If it were me I'd clean it well, make sure the firing pin channel is clear, and run 200 rounds through it with absolutely strict control of your ejected brass, so you can be 100% confident that you are ONLY looking at your brass and nobody else's. If it runs fine and all the strikes look equal, I'd guess you had grease or possibly some kind of machining leftover stuck in the channel and call it good.

If it has a single FTF, post up with more info. If it has 5 more FTFs, send it back to the manufacturer.
 
I am interested in PPQ, however, was trying to locate items as kydex holster. Any ideas, same as availability of magazines?
 
Denka said:
I am interested in PPQ, however, was trying to locate items as kydex holster. Any ideas, same as availability of magazines?
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I've asked a handful of places about mags, best answer I got was "maybe by the end of the year". Which would be right around now, hopefully.

Closest holster I found was a left hand P99 at Milarm, it seemed to fit. Guy said they should be getting more soon.
 
I know that you may use P99 magz for PPQ, as for holster saw ppl use Bladetech, could not figure out which model as none of them has option to choose PPQ, only PPK.
 
I have a Glock 17 and also the PPQ. The trigger on the PPQ is great and really helps with the accuracy.
I for one really like the mag release as I do not have to move my hand to release the mag.
P99 mags will work as I did buy one, but pricey $65
I have had only 2 hangups and they happened one after the other, maybe my ammo as I reload, other than that it has run great.
Does not seem to need any maintiance, stays clean.
Also l like the Glock and enjoy shooting it as well. I think the difference in the two guns is that the glock is not as forgiving as the walther.
 
Great guns... I'm in the market for one as well. I have a P30 LEM, and i love it, but when i tried the PPQ in the local gun store, i knew i had to have it.. :)
 
I thought only certain versions of the P99 mags will work with the PPQ without modification? Something about the feed ramps not lining up?

Supposedly the Magnum Research Baby Eagle 9mm mags will work as well, according to various people on the internet. I know nutnfancy has some vids that show him shooting with MRBE mags.
 
from where did you get those magz? I saw from states, can you get those here? Also, saw guys using Bladetech holster for XDM, but not sittting tight.
 
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