That is something different( not entirely really) elegant, combining lots of interesting things like the bullpup design with the straight pull action, some carbon fiber and wood(beautiful wood)…. Looks like the Europeans are pushing the new guns “designs” instead of new cartridges, to me that is more appealing new gun tech over new cartridges that doesn’t really do anything new or better(to a point). I think I like guns more than here chambering hahaha.
Walther RS3
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Me likey! 
A number of years back, I had a Desert Tech SRS and it was an unsurprisingly outstanding shooter. Owned it for less than a year before getting fed up with it and selling. I simply did not like reaching up under my ear to grasp the bolt for cycling.
This one has the bolt handle up where it should be, and adds the cool factor of a straight-pull bolt action. A Bullpup Blaser! What could be nicer?
A number of years back, I had a Desert Tech SRS and it was an unsurprisingly outstanding shooter. Owned it for less than a year before getting fed up with it and selling. I simply did not like reaching up under my ear to grasp the bolt for cycling.
This one has the bolt handle up where it should be, and adds the cool factor of a straight-pull bolt action. A Bullpup Blaser! What could be nicer?
KotKotofeich
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Lmfao only now am I realizing I was looking at it backwards and didn't even see the normal trigger. Should have had more coffee this morning I'm thinking...
I like that the German makers innovate. The short actions (Model 66) straight pull bolts. It just seems to add complexity, expense and bulk for no added benefit. However I imagine hunting Boar from a stand is a little different than Mule Deer in the western Canada.
Can would be nice, but a more Canada- friendly alternative could be a longer barrel. Something like a 26" barrel that handles like a 16.5?
Their brochure claims it is 24cm shorter than a standard bolt action with the same barrel length. That's almost 9.5".
I like my 20" Rem700, if I could have the ballistics of a 28" barrel with slightly shorter OAL I would be OK with that!
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francool08
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Any importation in Canada foreseen? Cost?
Walther, Bullpup, straight pull action. So close to a dream come true. Yet I’m not digging it.
Blaser pricing, Blaser styled proprietary scope mounts and it’s for hunting. Single stack 6 round mags ( no doubt proprietary?).
I’ll stick with the Desert tech. I want to like this, I really do. But honestly it even looks 1990’s. And Not in a good way.
Blaser pricing, Blaser styled proprietary scope mounts and it’s for hunting. Single stack 6 round mags ( no doubt proprietary?).
I’ll stick with the Desert tech. I want to like this, I really do. But honestly it even looks 1990’s. And Not in a good way.
Do we know this? No doubt it's true, in fact I hope it's true...because the alternative is another quantum upward price leap.
Honestly, if they match the repeatability and flexibility of Blaser mounts, this doesn't matter to me. And, like Blaser, there will absolutely be adaptors that attach to the proprietary grooves or dovetails or whatever, and then allow the use of Pic rail standard mounts.
Uh...yeah...okay?
Given my druthers...and I rarely am...I'd prefer AICS mags. But, as stated, this is a hunting rifle, so...I don't need to have dozens of spare mags, I don't need or want them to be hi-caps, and I'm not really even worried about cost as long as it's not too crazy. In fact, the only reason I even lean towards AICS mags at all is because of the fact that I've recently gotten a handful of MDT's 3-rounders for hunting.
AICS mags are a great idea, but...so many outfits make them, and to such variable specs, that they don't really live up to their promise. I have a half-dozen or so AICS-compatible rifles, and a bunch of mags, and sadly find that rarely does any given rifle function with all the various mags. I wind up finding which mags work in which rifles and try to keep them organized to use them appropriately. It's not all that much better than a bunch of guns with proprietary mags.
Would you feel differently if it came wrapped in ###y black plastic instead of that nasty wood? Because, guaranteed, that will be an option.
...it even looks 1990’s. And Not in a good way.
The only thing about this gun that gives me pause, aside from likely the price, is that cocking grip safety thing that bamboozled Suther. Not too sure about that...
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Do we know this? No doubt it's true, in fact I hope it's true...because the alternative is another quantum upward price leap.
Honestly, if they match the repeatability and flexibility of Blaser mounts, this doesn't matter to me. And, like Blaser, there will absolutely be adaptors that attach to the proprietary grooves or dovetails or whatever, and then allow the use of Pic rail standard mounts.
Uh...yeah...okay?
Given my druthers...and I rarely am...I'd prefer AICS mags. But, as stated, this is a hunting rifle, so...I don't need to have dozens of spare mags, I don't need or want them to be hi-caps, and I'm not really even worried about cost as long as it's not too crazy. In fact, the only reason I even lean towards AICS mags at all is because of the fact that I've recently gotten a handful of MDT's 3-rounders for hunting.
AICS mags are a great idea, but...so many outfits make them, and to such variable specs, that they don't really live up to their promise. I have a half-dozen or so AICS-compatible rifles, and a bunch of mags, and sadly find that rarely does any given rifle function with all the various mags. I wind up finding which mags work in which rifles and try to keep them organized to use them appropriately. It's not all that much better than a bunch of guns with proprietary mags.
Would you feel differently if it came wrapped in ###y black plastic instead of that nasty wood? Because, guaranteed, that will be an option.
The only thing about this gun that gives me pause, aside from likely the price, is that cocking grip safety thing that bamboozled Suther. Not too sure about that...
MRSP on the European market ranges from €3,999 to €6,999depending on the variant.
So yes, I’m pretty sure.
Blaser are decent mounts. I just don’t like paying $700 for them. Plus pic rail is standard these days and there are lots of decent return to zero QR ring/mount systems. Personally I find the mount/ proprietary systems to be out dated. Again feels 1990-early 2000s. Blaser, Sako, Sig Sauer all did this and have gone to pic rail standard. I wouldn’t expect that on a new modern rifle design.
I haven’t found that issue with AICS mags. I mainly use MDT metal mags. But I do have a few other manufacturers as well. Again no issues.
They offer it in polymer. Doesn’t change the 1990’s look to it. I get it, this is a FUD gun trying to bring those types into this century. Apparently only a few decades at a time. Halfway there I guess.
Ya. Not sure about the safety mechanism either. Makes more sense for a semi like the one in the HK P7 pistol which also works as a slide release. Kind of weird in a bolt gun. That being said, could be decent. Would have to try it to know for sure,
I think you've hit that nail on the head. This gun is aimed (pardon the pun...) at the older hunting crowd, in an effort to drag them forward into the present. I'm the target audience...but sadly, the present doesn't have much going for it to make it that attractive to me.I get it, this is a FUD gun trying to bring those types into this century. Apparently only a few decades at a time. Halfway there I guess.
Ya. Not sure about the safety mechanism either. Makes more sense for a semi like the one in the HK P7 pistol which also works as a slide release. Kind of weird in a bolt gun. That being said, could be decent. Would have to try it to know for sure,
As a hunting gun, it's not something that can be realistically compared to stuff like a Desert Tech, or even most semi-autos. Many of the features that appeal to a modern "sport shooter", in any discipline, just don't appeal to a hunter, or in fact might even be a negative. Similarly, many of the "negative" traits of this gun are either immaterial or even positive to someone like myself.
I like trying stuff that's new, or at least new to me. The straight-pull action made the Blaser rifles irresistible to me back in the day, when they were still fairly "new" to us on this side of the pond. I still love them, but it's the other features that have really sold me. The straight-pull speed, although it caught my eye back then, is less important to me now than their other attributes. Similarly, the Sig Cross grabbed me with its departure from the receiver-in-a-chassis design, and remains a favourite now but not because of that construction.
But in any case, at least for me, the price of this new toy prevents me from seriously considering it as an experiment. Maybe someday when Savage rips off the idea...
