Warne QD Rings test on Ruger Hawkeye African in 375 Ruger

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Howdy Fellers,

I have always considered myself lucky being able to use all the other CGNers' test results and experiences in order to make educated buying decisions, so its time to pay it forward. Here are the results of my testing using Warne QD Rings on a Ruger M77 Hawkeye African.

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The Rifle:
Ruger Hawkeye African
Leupold VX-2 2-7x33mm
Warne Ruger QD Rings 1R7L (1", medium, matte)
375 Ruger

Ammunition used is handloaded 300gr Hornady FMJ RN over a minimum load of H4350 just to fireform the brass for my future load development. I figured this would be the perfect time to test return to zero.

Now back in July, I loaded up 50 rounds and went to the range for initial sight in with the intention of shooting all 50. After 25 rounds fired, I had a headache from recoil and a bruised shoulder. But I did manage to check for Point of Impact shifting.

Here's my intitial results, groups connected by sharpie lines:

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Not bad, but not conclusive by any means. I was fighting a mean flinch and pulling shots like crazy. For reference, its an 8 inch black bull on the target.

This leads us to today. Note that I changed my setup. I started using front rest only with a very low chair. This brought my torso into a more upright position and reduced felt recoil significantly. Flinching is gone, no pain, no headache, no bruises.

Here's what the recoil keys in the rings look like:

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To reinstall the scope, it is important to apply forward and downward pressure while tightening the rings to the receiver. I do this by placing my left thumb to the rear of the elevation turret and my fingers grip the magazine floorplate pulling the scope tight to the action. I then tighten each ring a half turn at a time until both are snug. I then continue alternate torquing until they are as tight as I can get them by hand.

My testing consisted of firing 3 shots from a cold bore, removing and reinstalling the scope, firing 3 more, remove / reinstall, and so on until four groups had been fired at a single target. Unfortunately, I didnt think to start documenting this from the beginning, so the photos are from partway through.

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Each group is connected into a triangle by sharpie lines. Colour coding would have been much nicer - hindsight 20/20 and all that.

Heres all four groups, notice one of the last shots landed in the same hole (far left)

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Now these groups are each averaging around the 2 inch mark which makes it difficult to say how precisely these rings return to zero, but by eyeballing the center for each of these groups, I am confident in saying that they are close enough for my purposes. I may try this test again once I have zeroed in my hunting load.
 
I wish I was smart enough to have bought the right Warne rings for the stepped Ruger receiver. Now I have Leupolds on my African.
If anyone needs some non-stepped receiver Ruger rings, let me know.....
 
Thanks for the good post, it would be interesting to see your results once you find an moa load. I personally use Alaska arms qd rings on my iron sighted rugers. It's a pain to get them though as they will only ship to USA.
 
Thanks for the good post, it would be interesting to see your results once you find an moa load. I personally use Alaska arms qd rings on my iron sighted rugers. It's a pain to get them though as they will only ship to USA.

They shipped direct to me, have things changed??

I wish I was smart enough to have bought the right Warne rings for the stepped Ruger receiver. Now I have Leupolds on my African.
If anyone needs some non-stepped receiver Ruger rings, let me know.....

I have an extra set of stepped rings kicking around if you aren't liking your Leupolds.
 
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Thanks for the good post, it would be interesting to see your results once you find an moa load. I personally use Alaska arms qd rings on my iron sighted rugers. It's a pain to get them though as they will only ship to USA.

I am working on getting a 235gr Speer load worked up - hopefully it shoots and I'll try it again. I didnt bother doing any load development on the solids as they were an old discontinued batch i bought off a friend for cheap. I just looked at those Alaska Arms rings - looks like a quality unit.
 
Medvedqc, what kind of failures did you experience? Specific to the rugers or a different style of ring? Just curious - mine have only seen 50 rounds so far.

for rugers: well the first time we used them for a week in the middle of nowhere with our why not? his lovely wife and mine the bottom parts gave gave up and i had a spring and metal parts on the floor of the tent. luckily i had open sights if needed
i contacted warne that shipped a new set of rings. again at the range the same thing happened to me. i contacted them again and shipped me a new set of rings.
the last time was not even shooting. this time i asked for all extra parts i can get and sold the new set.

i used them on tikka with no problem. so it is not coming from the installation lol.

maybe the fact that im using a left hand version but the technician from warne where not able to tell what was wrong but identified a weak spot in the metal of the rings at the the bottom. so maybe a default or QC i do not know but cant take a gamble where i hunt for sure.
 
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Thanks for the good post, it would be interesting to see your results once you find an moa load. I personally use Alaska arms qd rings on my iron sighted rugers. It's a pain to get them though as they will only ship to USA.

they shipped to Canada few years and one Canadian dealer here was selling them.

coming from Alaska they were shipped to California, then Washington state then Vancouver for the customs then the Yukon a lovely round travel....
 
Thanks very much for your contribution an paying it forward.

i for one wasnt a Fan of QD mounts until my Stint in NZ when i located a cheap pair of 2nd hand QD rings.
i set up on the Mossberg Patriot 270 Winchester..

I never lost zero in field use apart from falling over in the River,,,,,,,, i never took off and re tightened the scope and mounts when in operation.

i have however just got the Scope off the 9.3 (sold) so as i can return the Zeiss back to the NZ gun.


i did become a Fan, for huntin Rifle an QD rings but i would only use on a knock about gun at this stage. EG marlin, mossy or loaner rifle. i prefer a lock stock set on an every day rifle
 
for rugers: well the first time we used them for a week in the middle of nowhere with your why not? his lovely wife and mine the bottom parts gave gave up and i had a spring and metal parts on the floor of the tent. luckily i had open sights if needed
i contacted warne that shipped a new set of rings. again at the range the same thing happened to me. i contacted them again and shipped me a new set of rings.
the last time was not even shooting. this time i asked for all extra parts i can get and sold the new set.

i used them on tikka with no problem. so it is not coming from the installation lol.

maybe the fact that im using a left hand version but the technician from warne where not able to tell what was wrong but identified a weak spot in the metal of the rings at the the bottom. so maybe a default or QC i do not know but cant take a gamble where i hunt for sure.

Thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind. Now I almost want to see mine fail.. good thing this rifle has iron sights.
 
I kinda hate Warne QD rings with their stupid little "recoil key" thing. But I have a few and just put a 30mm set on my NEW KING. I guess I'll see if they fail.

I don't know why they can't make a regular horizontal split ring with a fixed recoil lug that does the same thing on a Ruger.

It would be bloody awesome if ATRS made Ruger rings. They aren't classified as "QD" but they sure seem to work that way, and 2000+ rounds on my 50 BMG suggest they hold zero just fine.
 
Warnes have to be my least favourite ring. Major PITA to mount properly and keep the stupid key thing in place. I have a set on my 9.3x62. If there is a better option for QD rings that mount to a weaver style base, let me know.
 
Warnes have to be my least favourite ring. Major PITA to mount properly and keep the stupid key thing in place. I have a set on my 9.3x62. If there is a better option for QD rings that mount to a weaver style base, let me know.

leupold qrw (do not know the version 2 yet) or burris QD ones ...
 
Thought I'd give you guys a quick update:

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This is a 3/4 inch group from my Ruger African using 235gr Speer ahead of 75gr of varget. 80gr was looking promising but I pulled the last shot. I loaded some 74gr, 74.5gr, 75gr, 75.5gr, and 80gr loads to fine tune the potential node and see what it likes. Heading to the range in the morning, ill try to get results uploaded before I start my nightshift.
 
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I kinda hate Warne QD rings with their stupid little "recoil key" thing. But I have a few and just put a 30mm set on my NEW KING. I guess I'll see if they fail.

I don't know why they can't make a regular horizontal split ring with a fixed recoil lug that does the same thing on a Ruger.

It would be bloody awesome if ATRS made Ruger rings. They aren't classified as "QD" but they sure seem to work that way, and 2000+ rounds on my 50 BMG suggest they hold zero just fine.

I like the recoil lug on my Warne QD rings for my BRNO 602. It makes the re-installation of the rings/scope in the exact same location a snap.

On my other rifles with QD rings without recoil lugs I mark the ring and rail with red paint so I return the ring/scope to the same location on the rifle.
 
Okay fellers, I made it back from the range.

Heres the results for todays testing of 235gr Speer with Varget. Also, i made up some simple targets trying to get a better aiming point using the corner of a square.

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74 grains of varget - also cold bore shot - not so great

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74.5gr is starting to look better.

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75gr at just over an inch

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Here is 75.5gr and its about 7/8 of an inch. Perfect.. but wait!

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Here is the retest of my 80gr load. Outside to outside was 0.700 inches, subtract 0.375, is a 0.325" group. Not bad for an 9lbs medium bore hunting rifle with 7x magnification.

Now I just need to chronograph that 80gr load, zero the scope, and zero the iron sights. Pretty happy with how this is shaping up so far.
 
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