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Hey folks,
This appeared in my e-mail a while back. It an article from popular mechanics, basically saying that our rifles and ammo are becoming obsolete? Has anyone else heard of this? What do you all think?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/news/a27414/plastic-ammo-textron-cased-telescope/?src=nl&mag=pop&list=nl_pnl_news&date=072217
 
If you think about it, brass with powder and led is pretty archaic ... It is only a matter of time. Will i be parting with my "archaic" technology ... not likely
 
Flappy the Corn Clown said:
I always wished that gyrojet guns had caught on. That would be a hell of a day at the range. Of course, we would never be allowed to have them in Canada....
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There was a gyrojet pistol for sale at the Calgary Shooting Centre for a long time. The velocity is rather slow and the tech not overly reliable.
 
blaxsun said:
The technology in the HK G11 is still pretty cool.
Thanks for linking to that video.
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I've handled the g11 caseless ammo, was neat. You could remove the bullet from the charge by hand, and remove part of the charge by hand to reduce velocity, and reassemble the round in seconds. Would kill to actually shoot a G11.
 
blaxsun said:
The technology in the HK G11 is still pretty cool.
Thanks for linking to that video.
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Got to handle it few weeks ago.

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Still alive said:
Is the G11 still around? I thought it was shelved in the 90s?
Either way, it's a name prohib here so we won't be seeing one in our hands anytime soon.

PS Nice suit!!
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it was shelved in the 90s. Never went into production. Massive overheating issues from the caseless ammo.

That video is classic. Saw it a few years ago. SO much in that video that no longer conforms to accepted knowledge with regards to firearms design or combat shooting.
 
Cameron SS said:
it was shelved in the 90s. Never went into production. Massive overheating issues from the caseless ammo.
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3 main issues as explained to me by H&K:
-The action is like a mechanical clock. It's overly complex. 1 piece of dirt/sand gets inside will likely jam it.
-Only 3 countries has one of the key elements for the special propellant for the caseless rounds - USA, Russia & Norway.
-Chamber will wear out completely after only a few hundred rounds.

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The Steyr ACR prototype is a much more closer to completion that looks ready to go straight to production.

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mebiuspower said:
3 main issues as explained to me by H&K:
-The action is like a mechanical clock. It's overly complex. 1 piece of dirt/sand gets inside will likely jam it.
-Only 3 countries has one of the key elements for the special propellant for the caseless rounds - USA, Russia & Norway.
-Chamber will wear out completely after only a few hundred rounds.
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Most stuff of European design or manufacture IS built like clocks. Overly complex for what is required.:confused:
Some of the chemicals used to make caseless ammo is highly controlled in Canada, but attainable none the less. Just a PITA to do the government dance to get it, especially in smaller quantities.
I guess we will see how long a chamber lasts soon.:)
 
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