I like the cartridges, but not necessarily the rifles. I have early 60's German made MkV in 300 Wby though, 1.5-6x Zeiss-Hensoldt in claw mounts on top, nice rifle. I also shoot a Win 70 in 270 Wby that I got from Dave Echols, a Rem 700 with a Ron Smith gain twist barrel in 340 Wby. A Model 70 in 7mm Wby, a custom Mauser in 257 Wby, and a custom P14 in 375 Wby. Good cartridges all. - dan