webley"wg"target model...antique??

[skit]

does anyone have information on determining if webley wg target revolver is antique or not?

 

[SDC]

The FRT shows all chamberings as "restricted", ie. manufactured after 1898.

 

[david doyle]

easy dingus easy

 

[dingus]

Well if they put a A in FRT that would be about how usefull it really is

Theres a few WG Targets that ARE Perscribed Antiques.
Grant R has one i think but theres more out there Somewhere with my name on them im hopeing

Theres a 1896 model in Dowels book + others as well.
If we went by everything the Fart disc says we would have Tiny Collections like Liberals have Tiny peckers.

 

[david doyle]

see I knew it was only minutes away, now poor dingus wont be able to sleep tonight! Only ask antique classification questions before noon so he can wind down.LOL.

 

[GrantR]

My WG Target revolver was manufactured in 1897, based on the information I have available to me (i.e. other serial numbers, both sides of mine, documented as having been sold in 1897 by the Army and Navy Co-operative Society Ltd.) Mine was registered when I got it, but with the information now available, I have made formal application to have it de-registered ...

And yes, the "FART" is in error if it states that no WG Target revolvers pre-date 1898! Check out this plate scanned from Dowell's "The Webley Story", which shows various models of WG revolvers - note, in particular, that the configuration known as the "Target" model was available in two slightly different models introduced in 1892 and 1893 respectively - i.e. revolvers (b) and (c) on the left side of the plate ...

(Click on thumbnail to enlarge ...)


The problem, of course, is that many - if not most - WG Target revolvers were made in 1898 or later ....

 

[skit]

webley wg

now were getting somewhere. the number on mine is 11###. is that anywhere near yours?

 

[GrantR]

Skit: Mine is 9299, so I'd suspect that your revolver was manufactured in 1898 or later ....

 

[skit]

thanks grantr. not what i wanted to hear. dang, i think i'll just throw it away now.......not . actually this gun has two numbers on it, the other is 41### and looks like an older stamped number. it is an army and navy csl gun. 455-476 but looks like it will chamber a 45 colt. shiney nickle too thanks again for the info.

 

[dingus]

skit!

I have a 1885 model WG and 45 colts happen to fit in it perfect. Its never been altered either!
I shoot 5.5 grs of trail bose with a .454 dia Keiths style bullet and my WG loves it shoots 2 inch groups at 25 yds and im a crappy shot LOL

See if a 45 colt will fit! But if you cant close the action your outa luck and would have to thin the rims on the forward side with a lathe to 455 rim thickness.
Then your good to go!

 

[skit]

dingus, thanks for the info., but how do you know your's is a 1885 model?? does it say somewhere on the gun??mine only says "wg target model" no year date or anything.

 

[dingus]

If you look at mine closely and notice the Church steeple Cylinder and the Cylinder realease screw this was used around 1885 then changed again later.

Dowells book The webley story gives great discriptions of the diffrent model WGs and there years,
Dixie gun works sells them for like $45

Click on pic to enlarge

 

[skit]

dingus, that is a very nice piece but mine doesnt look anything like it. too bad i dont have a camera. maybe i can borrow one and post a pic. hopefully someone had seen one like mine. thanks

 

[dingus]

Go look at GrantRs post his Webley collection Titled 455 revolver family!
he has his WG in a group shot!
Its most likely just like his.
Its in BP down a few Threads.

 

[GrantR]

Skit: Click on these thumbnails to enlarge ....

Original Webley catalogue pages ...

WG Target Model - like mine and (I presume) yours -


WG Army Model - like Dingus's revolver (though a different version, with the later cylinder release setup, etc) ....


Here's my WG Target ....

 

[skit]

grantr, yes mine looks like your wg except for the nickle. however i still need to figure out the serial number thing.