Weihrauch Models.

Bowie

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Hi,
I'm looking for a quality air rifle and have decided on a Weihrauch. However I am lost on which one to purchase. It will be used primarily for shooting gongs from my deck, and dispatching the occasional garden pest and perhaps Ruffed grouse. I would prefer .22 caliber and value quality and accuracy over a few extra fps of velocity.
What would you recommend?
Thanks.
 
You've done your research well if you've decided on Weihrauch. I've got three HW's in .22, a 30S, 97KT and a 100T. They will all shoot 1/2" groups, but at different distances. The 30 at 20 yards, the 97 at 35 yards and the 100 at 50 yards. Velocities are 495 (14.3gr), 720 (18.1gr) and 820 (21.1gr) respectively. Pricing varies from $300, $750 and $1400 as well.

They're all a pleasure to shoot for whatever your goals are, you're just buying more distance. I stretched my HW100 out to 130 yards and landed 7 shots into a 2" group!
 
Weihrauch air rifles are among the best available. Among the HW springers, the HW50 will deliver about 12 fpe, while the HW77k, 95, 97k and 98 are all around 14 - 15 fpe. The HW80 is a little more powerful. The 77k and 97k (k for carbine) are underlever rifles. They are a little heavier than the others and the 97k requires a scope, as it has no open sights. This is also true of the HW98. Whichever one you choose, they are all very good quality. The question may depend on how much your budget is and does it include a scope.
 
I have an HW100 none pall version 495 fps in .22. If your looking for plinking off your deck, its ideal. A full change will last for over 200 pellets and it uses 14 shot magazines.

depending on were you live discharging a pal rated air rifle in you back yard will get you in deep doo doo
 
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To better answer your question.

I have had or still have the following rifles in .22 an hw30, hw77, hw97, hw80 & an hw100

If you don't want to scope it you can go for the hw30, hw77 or hw80, The hw80 is the mos powerful springer in the line up followed by the hw77 and then non pal hw30, only the hw30 in .177 is pal rated.

If you are looking to put a scope on it the best choice is the hw97 or the hw100. The hw100 pal rated is the most powerful of the two and you will get just over 20 shots per charge.

As for accuracy there all amazing, but if your into uber accuracy the hw100 is the way to go, no recoil, you can literally stack pellets on the target
 
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Love my HW97KT. This one has a Vortek kit installed and spits out a 14.66 gr H&N FTT at 15.9 fpe. A little on the heavy side but very much my favourite air rifle.
 
Hi,
I'm looking for a quality air rifle and have decided on a Weihrauch. However I am lost on which one to purchase. It will be used primarily for shooting gongs from my deck, and dispatching the occasional garden pest and perhaps Ruffed grouse. I would prefer .22 caliber and value quality and accuracy over a few extra fps of velocity.
What would you recommend?
Thanks.

Pal or non-Pal? Have you considered the fixed barrel under lever?
 
PAL. Does the underlever have any disadvantages except for weight?
I have a 97K in .177. I find that loading an underlever is a little more annoying than a break barrel. In reality, it just takes a little practise and you must hold onto the lever when loading. If it ever let go while your fingers are in the loading gate, you would have a very bad day.

I also have a HW80 in .22. This is by far my favorite airgun. Very powerful with the kick to go with it. It can be toned down/ smoothed out with a kit, but I haven't done that yet. It does take quite a lot of oomph to #### it, so not good for some women and younger folks.

Although I like the rifles that need a SCBA tank, it's just not for me... I don't want to carry more stuff. You cannot go wrong with Weihrauch, whichever platform you choose.
 
Bowie….don't mean to hi-jack your thread but I've been struggling with either getting a PAL or non-PAL Weihrauch.
If I get a PAL rated model…why don't I just shoot a .22lr with quite rounds? So... I've been thinking about getting the less regulated non-PAL AG. Wondering what your thoughts are (or anyone else's)
 
I have the HW 97KT in .177 with a tune kit and other do-dads installed.
It is PAL rated.
It shoots like a dream.
But,
as others have said, shooting it in your back yard(depending on location) can get you in trouble.
Even shooting a non PAL in your back yard can land you in hot water if your municipality has a no airgun discharge by-law.
Get a HW (whatever model) and learn to shoot it,you will have no regrets.
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High end HW will be consistently accurate, 22lr quiets tend to vary their POI, its just OK ammo, thats my experience, I'll shoot some over my chrony and see what the deviation is. Having said that my HW97k shoots tighter groups than my tx200, which is saying alot, cause my tx is amazing. Next air rifle I get will be the HW77 in 22. Missed out on those skookum anniversary models, beautiful stocks.
 
Bowie….don't mean to hi-jack your thread but I've been struggling with either getting a PAL or non-PAL Weihrauch.
If I get a PAL rated model…why don't I just shoot a .22lr with quite rounds? So... I've been thinking about getting the less regulated non-PAL AG. Wondering what your thoughts are (or anyone else's)

I'm not so worried about legalities - I'm on over six acres in rural Alberta. It is more a factor of being a polite neighbour. I have several sets of small gongs set out in the back yard which my boys can shoot at with BB guns. I would like to join them, but if I am going to buy an air rifle, I'm going to get an adult one. Also with pest control, a pellet is so light it is not likely to do much damage at 2-300 yards, unlike with a bullet - particularly with a ricochet.
 
I've owned a HW30, 35, 50, 77K, 80, 85, 90, 95, 97K, and a 98. Were I to own just one in 22 and I was buying it today, I'd buy a HW95 from D&L for $490. There isn't anything you can't do (within airgun limits) with a HW95 and it's the shortest and lightest in it's weight class.I'm sure you will find the accuracy excellent.

The 85 is basically the same gun just a different stock (a little fancier) and has a longer barrel.

The 35E is definitely "prettier" or classier (been in production since the dawn of time) and can be considered more accurate due to the barrel latch but the power is much lower.

The 77 and 97 weigh much more and are more accurate. But if you are that concerned with accuracy then you should get one in .177 to really squeeze out that last bit of accuracy.

The 80 is a slightly bigger version of the 95 which makes it more powerful (not a lot) but it's heavier and if you only have one gun the extra power isn't worth the weight.

The 98 is a 85 with a different stock and barrel sleeve so it's heavier and has the same power. In my mind it's a wanna be target gun that isn't, since it doesn't have a barrel latch.

The 50 is smaller and lighter but much lower in power.

The 30 is even smaller and lighter again but it's under 500 fps in .22

Which one do I own you ask? Well if I were a one gun hunter I'd get a 77K in .177. You can hunt with it, shoot Field Target with it and pellets are cheaper. Plus it has iron sights or you can scope it. Were I to buy it new today I''d probably get one of the Special Editions from Specialty Shooting. However I am not a one gun hunter so I have a HW30 in .22, a 35 with 2 barrels (.177 original and 22K) and a 80 with a .25K and a .22K barrel. My "one gun" airgun is a TX200HC (no iron sights) in .177.

The 85 should last you your lifetime as well as your kids. You can get aftermarket springs, off set triggers, different stocks (the 85 and 98 fit) plus there are custom stock makers out there. A 4-12 Bushnell Banner will work fine on it so will the old steel tube Weavers so scopes won't cost a lot.

My 2 cents. Hope it helps
 
Glad to help.

A couple more thoughts on HW guns.

The barrels are all the same.

The triggers are all the same except for the 90 and 25 (and there used to be a 30 without the Record). The Record trigger is considered to be one of the best in the world.

The 77 and 97 are considered more accurate due to the fixed barrel. Therefore the 30, 50, 80, 85, 95 should all be the same (pretty much) in terms of accuracy.

The 90 is a gas ram so that could affect accuracy (faster/better firing cycle possibly). It's a big gun and I never really liked mine (bought it new and traded it away). The guy who I traded it to has never had a problem with the gas ram and he's had it for about 15 years. I prefer springs as they are more easily replaceable. Vortek makes an amazing drop in kit. I've also used Maccari springs (made my own guides) and they are nice but I'd go with Vortek now.

The 35 has an edge in the accuracy department due to the barrel latch and the 98 because of the barrel shroud.

I guess what I'm trying to point out is that in reality, unless you are an amazing shooter, the difference in accuracy between the guns is minimal. Also, shooting a spring gun is not the same as shooting a powder burner so I guess I should have said is: unless you are an amazing airgun shooter, the difference in accuracy between the guns is minimal.

Have fun!
 
I have a full powered HW80K /.22 with a Vortek tune kit.It gets 725fps with the jSB exact domes or JSB Predators. Small game under 20lbs is dead with proper shot placement.Scoped this is a heavy gun if that matters to you?Shot many grouse with the Predators either through the wing butts or small of back so they can't fly.Harold
 
Just to add ...I was always a big fan of big power and bought one of the early Diana Model 52's when they came out... years later I bought a Weihrauch H35 (used)...its a big air rifle but satisfyingly accurate. In fact so much so that I find it is the only air rifle I use! Most of my shooting is at targets etc.... and now I realize that I was putting too much emphasis on power and not enough emphasis on the pleasure derived from a mid range power rifle with extraordinary accuracy..there is a reason the 35 has been around so long..
 
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