Well I did it! My Blaser R8 Professional review!

baker42

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Hey CGN,

I have longed for this rifle for sometime. I have done tons of research, checked every dealer, and called every importer. Its been over a year sense I first really handle a Blaser rifle. It was a R93, and instantly thought it would solve my rifle problems.

What are those problems you ask? Well I am a long range junkie who loves to hunt. I found that all my bolt and semi guns somehow ended up wearing heavy barrels and weighed in at 12lbs+. This a hunting rifle does not make. Lets face it lugging around that all day kind of takes the fun away.

Another thing I started to notice was all my rifles wore same scopes, stocks, and sported the same triggers. They just ranged in many different cals. This starts to add up quick when it comes to money invested in rifles just to get a different cal.

So when I came across a R93, and the multi cal, barrel contours and quick change scope options. I thought I found what I was looking for. It didn't help that one of my favorite YouTube'rs, The Long Range Blog, uses a R93, and now has a R8.

I then came across the R8. With its removable mag system it appealed to me more. Also with the possiblity to get a heavy match barrel in 243, 308, 300winmag, and 338LM. Well that just pretty much matched what I already had in my safe.

So after all my searching I came to Grouse River, they had a wicked deal on a Professional they had used for demo. Though it was in a cal I was not set up to reload for, 7mm RM, I dove in. I would really like to thank Maciek aka "Magic" for all his help, information, and patience in my acquisition of this. He was probably the only Blaser dealer it seemed that actually wanted my business. He would always return my calls, and emails same day. Others seem to take a week for emails, even though when I called some of these places they told me its best to email them I would get faster responses...?

So my order was placed for the Professional in 7mm RM and a 1inch mount QD mount.

First Impressions

Rifle It looked "savage" like. I know people out there are going to take offense to this on either boat. It didn't look like it should cost at first glance. Then I picked up the stock. It feels solid, the build of the bedding block and slide area looks great. I don't feel any flex in it. If you have ever had the chance to pick up a mp5, that is the solid it feels like. This one happens to be an ambidextrous version. So it has rubber inserts in all the right places. Now it says it has a large palm sell, well I was expecting one like the HS Precision stock, but it is slightly smaller. Still fits great in my hands and the rubber gives an even surer grip feel. Now this stock is only setup for a standard barrel contour. You can purchase ones for semi-weight and match, or you can either open it up yourself, a smith or send it to Blaser and they will do it also. I have heard the semi-weights do fit nicely though and may try it out.

The rifle came disassembled in the custom case. Now with all my research I new instantly what to do. As every YouTube video shows how to put it together I won't really talk about this. I was very impressed still at how easily I preformed this. Being a precision guy it is going to take some getting use to in not torquing the barrel retention screws. Once together all thoughts of "savage" like disappeared. The straight pull action is slick. The de-cocker, yes not a safety, was a little hard at first. I think its more because its new to me. I proved this by passing the rifle off to several guys and gals, each said that it was weird and maybe a little hard to operate at first. Though within a few tries it became second nature. I like the de-cocking on a loaded chamber. This really solves the question of to have a round chambered or not. Though with time you can become fast with operating it, you still have to WANT it to ####.

The mag is the trigger. This is the next eye opener, and a place for contention among people. "What if you loose it?" Well the rifle isn't going to work now is it. Though Blaser has thought of people like you. It can be locked in place, and can only be unlocked through the action opening. I however like it. As it makes it easier to load, unload, and secure. You can remove the mag and it renders the firearm in-operable in all definitions of the word. Once removed there is a cover for both the mag, and the opening in the stock to keep everything clean. Cost to replace is a thing, you are looking 3-400 but when you think about it its just above what an AI mag and an aftermarket trigger cost, so kind of makes sense as to why its that pricey.

The first time I picked up the rifle fully assembled, it felt heavy. Mostly in the center. If you look at my pic you can see why. There is a lot going on there with the barrel, scope mount, and bolt. Most actions have this spread out over a few more inches. Sense there is no receiver it gets very centered. Though when placed into the shoulder, it felt great. My thoughts went along with a few other guys/gals I have let handle it. Actually one gal said the balance felt like it should be a "girls" gun. When asked to explain, she said "it feels like I can hold it up better then other rifles, though its heavy, it sits nicely in my smaller arms".

Scope Mount This is a very cool idea. Also another place my OCD on torque specs is being put to the test. Its just two levers that go into a machined area on the barrel. Slide them down with thumb pressure, and flip the levers closed. This doesn't seem right to me. Blaser claims return to zero, and everything I have read says return to zero, only one article I have come across mention no more difference then 10mm. Pull out your Canadian ruler and see what that actually looks like. That falls within the theory of a group. Have no fear I will put this to the test. The scope did come with probably one of the best allen wrench I have seen and tension screw driver, so if the mount becomes loose.

With this mount, in theory I can use it over several barrels. With this return to zero claim I should be able to zero it for multiple cals, and make notes for the scope settings for each. This would mean you would also have to have a very reliable and accurate scope. Though if its going on multiple barres you are saving money as you would only need one mount, and one scope. At $599 a mount, and well $300-$3500 for an optic you could really buy some high end scope and save. I do however see and read that most people just get a mount and scope per barrel.

The Case Is fancy on the inside, and pretty clean on the out. There is spots for two barrels, two bolts, two scopes, and two mags. Along with the stock of course and the couple tools it comes with. I never really wanted to purchase the case. In-fact I didn't even know it was coming in one. It is an extra $4-500 through most places. Though after seeing how its laid out and over all size, I am in. Yes you can use any other case out there, but if you are investing in a rifle like this, well lets face it you don't park a Mercedes in a barn. I would like to point out that it even has protected area for the barrel retention studs so you won't inadvertently knock the threads.

Range day Well today is going to be the first chance I have to probably go out. It is raining though. I hope it lives up to its internet and my hype!


Cal I did have one problem with cal. I am not set up for 7mm RM reloading and as it seems all my local ammo stores also aren't. I got two boxes of Winchester 175g, and one of Fusion 175g. We will see how it shoots. All claims says it shoots any ammo great. Though most people find it doesn't like the heavy's as much. So in my part of Ontario, it does not pass the Crappy Tire Test. I was really hoping on getting a 300winmag barrel, but this will have to wait. I know a few dealers on here that have barrels pretty cheap. Standard cals start at $1100 and magnum $1300. Or may just try and trade it on here. Though 7mmRM is on the list of do everything cal when loaded with the right bullet.

For all you pic hunters;

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So don't worry, though vortex is good glass, it really doesn't seem right on this just by its name alone. Haha I am already turning yuppie!!

Alright so at this time I want to lay it out as I know everyone always comments on that you could buy 7 Savages, 4 Remingtons, or do a custom build for the price of this rifle.

First this is a custom in my mind, the straight pull defines it as such sense its design is on its own when compared to other straight pulls.

Next lets break down a custom rifle price. So action, barrel, stock, trigger, bottom metal, scope base/mount, and smith fees.

-Action $500-$1500 (Remington-Stiller)
-Barrel $350-$600
-Stock $399-$900 (B&C-McMillan)
-Trigger $60-$200 (Factory Rem-Timney)
-Bottom Metal $80-$350 (Factory-AI style)
-Scope Mount $70-$500 (Talley-LaRue)
-Smith Fees $120-$600 (Just a barrel mount to a full bed and truing job)

Ok, some of my prices maybe less, some maybe high. That is why I gave a range. So for $1579-$4650(+tax,S&H) you are looking at a build. Yes you can build for cheaper, but for a comparison your only using new parts. This gets you one rifle, one cal.

This rifle to my door was $4666.97 minus the scope. So I am right in-line with a high end custom, with all the benefits of quick barrel/cal change, QD scope mounts, and lets face it the straight pull bolt is slick.

Now could I have bought a bunch of other guns, sure. In-fact I sold a bunch of rifles to purchase this. Though now, I can take a small case, with a couple barrels on a mix bag hunt and that way I know I have the right gun for the job. Yes I could also pick one cal and a different projectile for each hunting scenario, but then I would have to make sure I remember the ballistics for each, less guess work under the crunch the better. Also this means I won't have a not enough/too much cal for the job at hand. Plus add the match barrel option, and off season I can still use the same trigger and stock and get as much practice as possible. If you follow THLR you will note his is a standard contour barrel also.

I will continue to update this as I shoot, and hunt. I don't see much on here about these rifles, so as long as I own it, I will have a running review. With pics of course.

Hope you enjoyed the read.

Pro Patria
 
Very nice. I have had an R93 for 10+ years or so. They are extremely accurate, well made and very fast for a "bolt". I have a .308 and .257 Bee barrels. Both are half inch barrels. The .308 shoots 170grn Naturalis and the .257 shoots 85 grn Nosler Ballistics.

You will find that the scopes still belong on each barrel. You really can't use one scope for all barrels. The machining from Blaser will hold but the scope just won't work no matter how well you've counted your presets.

Also, the trigger is crazy good. Am I right?? Yup. I am.
 
Welcome to the family. These guns are the best serious hunting rifles going, IMHO. I have a pair of stock/receiver units and several barrels, and some combination of them is what I reach for more often than not when it's time to shoot something.

I agree with CS about the scope mounts, but only partially. If your individual mount can be affixed to more than one barrel with more-or-less the same pressure exerted on the thumbscrews, then you can definItely count on repeatability in my experience. If there's a significant difference in thumbscrew "feel" then it just won't work. Any mount can be adjusted for any barrel and if you are lucky the same tension adjustment will work for multiple barrels. I lucked out and found the same tension works nicely on my .375, .300 and .264 barrels. I keep a dedicated scope/mount on each one, and use a single scope/mount combination as the backup for all three. My OCD forces me to check the zero each time I switch; it has never budged perceptibly. I could easily use one premium scope in that mount interchangeably as the primary optic for all three of those barrels.

Enjoy your new baby!
 
Well I am back from the range. It was pretty busy even though it was raining. So I didn't get the range time I would like to spend with this rifle to really shake it out.

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Because of the rain I used the shoot and see targets inside of paper. I don't like the vortex scope for this weather and type of target. The reticle very much got lost in the dark target. Can be an issue also when shooting at bear during normal hunting conditions like the rain of today. An illuminated reticle would of course solve this.

As for groups, well was definitely not my best day. Here is my zero Tgt;

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Because of the amount of people I found myself rushing, and not leaving enough time between groups. There was a lot of barrel shimmer that I just found myself shooting through to get rounds down, instead of being that guy holding everyone up.

Anyways, Trigger is great. Very light and crisp, very much like how I set my Timney's. I ended up adding a butt stock pouch/cheek pad. I like them on my hunting rifles to hold odds/ends and it suits it quite well.

First thing is of course, no bi-pod mount. There are company's that make mounts, or there is a spot in the stock that you can drill and add a swivel to add a Harris. The Vektor mount is what I am looking at, as I am very much a fan of Parker Hale style bi-pods. I'll have to see if there is anyone in Canada who deals in them.

I tried the remove and install barrel and well it was within what I am expecting given conditions.
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It did show better performance with the Fusions. I really need to get projectiles to better hash it out. I am thinking 150g AB's as I have great luck with the Nosler projectile in most other hunting applications I have used it in.

The action is slick, I found myself cycling the rifle faster and faster. I will try some quick aim shooting when I found a load for it.

I am pretty happy over all, even with only 30rnds down range. Hopefully will get out next weekend with it to check zero then maybe a bear hunt!


Cheers
 
did you felt the differences handling a r8 and r93?

talking about stock shape and a little more bulkier? not the differences on the trigger group ..btw do not loose it bill can be hard to swallow ....
 
Nice rifle OP!

I got to play with an R8 extensively in Sweden last month at an action shooting range, where you shoot at a movie screen with various animals walking running etc. It was magical.

Follow up shots on Running wild boar were so fast. It took a while to get used to the layout of the rifle, but I loved it. If I could find one here in 6.5x55 I'd sell a bunch of guns for it.
 
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Thanks for taking the time to do a thorough review! Even though the $4500 price tag puts this into the maybe never category for me, I still liked reading about the R8. You don't see too much info on some of the neat new euro guns. I look forward reading your updates.
 
To the OP, thanks for sharing and I concur regarding Grouse River - excellent customer service!

I love my R93, I now have a 375 H&H, 6.5x55, 3006, 300 Winmag., all with separate mounts and scopes - mainly Swarovski R6s
I also installed a kickstop in the butt the of the stock. Does a great job of reducing recoil ( although not as good as a brake) but certainly a cheaper and quieter option! Rifle is a bit heavier but I don't find it a bit problem and if I don't like it I can easily remove it
 
Who is a blazer dealer in Canada?

Sorry for the late reply work had taken me away.

So here are the ones I found that deal in Blaser;

-Grouse River (who I bought this one from)
-Wolverine Supplies
-Ellwood Epps
-Calgary Shooting Center
-West Coast Hunting Supplies

Just to name the ones I know of.

So I have now drilled the small hole to mount a Harris bi-pod. I will get some pics on here later. I had to many problems trying to find the Vektor bi-pod mount in country. Guess I will order in from overseas.

I hope to get out this weekend for a range day to try it out and maybe a hunt afterwards.

I did pack it along when I went grouse hunting a few weeks ago. Had a bear tag. I like how it packed down and stored in my pack. Thus when I found a few bear tracks, like I normally do out birding, I locked up the 22 and in under a min had the Blaser ready to go. Unfortunately the tracks were a day old and found same day human tracks later on following it. Though it packed right up and back to the 22.

So I still feel odd taking apart the rifle and putting it back together, but I am warming up to it greatly. I think the more times I do it at the range, the better I will feel.

I am on the hunt for a few barrels now though. I really am not set up for 7mmRM when it comes to reloading, or even cleaning for that matter. So looking at my good old trusty 300winmag, 257wm, 308, and 30-06. May throw it up on trade here. Though between work and hunting seasons I don't want to be down a rifle at this time. Winter it maybe then.

Will keep you posted
 
Well I am home from 3+ months of work and have found a 308 barrel waiting for me.

Thanks Calgary Shooting Centre. You were fast on shipping (except Canada Post slowed you down) and you under cut everyone on the cost of the barrel! You answered all my calls and questions and well even carried on a conversation in regards to the rifle and your experience with them!

Unboxing the barrel I found it well packaged and all the information, including the German warranty card.

Installing took no time. Only thing that took a we bit is slightly adjusting the tension on the QD scope mount to what Blaser recommends as a "feel" when applying the latches vs an actual spec.

Unfortunately I am now torn; I have had the urge to sell it lately. I mostly blame my tinkering side, and the fact it has been so long / haven't really had a chance to use the rifle. Hopefully I will get out and be able to try the new barrel and I will see what happens.

Maybe I will look for a cheap tinkering rifle to tide me over as the only thing left to do is mount decent optics. That's a budget thing vs a hands on thing.

For optics I am torn two ways; Long Range, or Light Weight.

My light weight option I think is going to be a Swarovski Z3 3-10(12.7oz). I have read a lot about them, and their weight appeals to me.

My long range option is going to be my standard of NightForce. I have used them a lot and learned to trust them. I am sure other people have their 2 cents on this, but go with what you know.

Its too bad I can't have both options. I know a 2.5-10x42 NXS is 26.2oz and will add up pretty hefty when all put together.

Right now as the scale sits with 308 barrel, ammo, Vortex 3-9 Crossfire (16.2oz), sling and butt pouch loaded with tools and data book I am at 8.9lbs add the Harris bipod and it jumps to 9.8lbs

Really that isn't all the heavy when you see what I have been hauling around the woods. Its still a little hefty for my end goal of a mountain hunt.

All I know is if I sold it that's a large tinkering budget for a new rifle and optics. Heck maybe even two rifles to quell my tinkering bug. A long range rig and a lightweight hunter. Only time will tell I guess!

Pro Patria
 
Sorry, I'm a bit lost, are these 1 inch 2 shot groups or what?

As mentioned the 2rn groups were me testing the removal and replacement of the barrel;

I tried the remove and install barrel and well it was within what I am expecting given conditions.
Left hand before, right after;

Because of how busy and the fact I only had a few boxes sense I don't reload for 7mmRM I only shot two rounds per for that test.

More or less was not optimal range day for testing due to people and weather. Hard to knuckle down and shoot when you are the only one shooting for accuracy.
 
As mentioned the 2rn groups were me testing the removal and replacement of the barrel;



Because of how busy and the fact I only had a few boxes sense I don't reload for 7mmRM I only shot two rounds per for that test.

More or less was not optimal range day for testing due to people and weather. Hard to knuckle down and shoot when you are the only one shooting for accuracy.

A set of dies and some brass is cheap, quick and easy to buy for 7mm RM. I Don't understand the statement "I Don't reload for 7mm RM."

Nice rifle! Keep it until you down something with it.
 
A set of dies and some brass is cheap, quick and easy to buy for 7mm RM. I Don't understand the statement "I Don't reload for 7mm RM."

Nice rifle! Keep it until you down something with it.

Well its simple, out of the 30+ rounds I have brass and dies for, 7mm Rem Mag was not one of them. Nor is it a round that I am interested in setting up for.

I believe 7mm Rem Mag is a western round. This can be seen as it doesn't pass what I call the "Canadian Tire Test". Go into your local CT and see what they sell. My two actually didn't have this round on the shelf, nor as the old guy said, "have they ever", despite the three cases full of different stuff including 6.5x284 Norma. Out of the two Firearms shops local to me; one had a dust covered box, and the other had two boxes only. Neither of them sell it ever as they stated.

If you read my original post
I am not set up for 7mm RM reloading and as it seems all my local ammo stores also aren't.

I didn't order dies or brass for this reason, instead sold the barrel and got a good baseline round of 308. If I am destine to online order my stuff then buy local supplies the cost effectiveness of reloading doesn't seem right to me vs what the round is capable of doing. There are many rounds out there and available to the Blaser line that can do the same thing if not more effective and with better powder efficiency and pass the local CT test. (At least in my eyes)
 
Hmmmm. I would say most CT do have 7mm RM, it's probably in the top 10 of popular NA hunting rounds. Moot point now if you sold the barrel and I'm not trying to convince you of the virtues of any cartridge. I am curious about why it matters if a round passes the "Canadian tire test" if you are a reloader? I have reloaded for a whole bunch of uncommon rounds, but so long as I can secure dies and a couple hundred brass (which you usually can from good online dealers like Tradeex or PR) it makes no difference to me at all if local stores carry ammo.
 
Cam1936 I will agree it is in the top ten for sure for NA. In fact my favorite writer/hunting TV star really enjoys its uses (Steve Rinella) Remember though seeing your Central Alberta, I mentioned that it was very much a western round. Fast, light, little drop makes sense out that way. Here in North Eastern I have found that over the counter it just isn't popular. I am not arguing the effectiveness and place of that round at all. In fact if one is to study the tables and charts on many rounds there isn't much separation and more or less the same effectiveness. Just comes down to popularity for the area in which you hunt/shop. I know if I drive 5hrs south of me there is more availability but still not what I have seen out West.


it makes no difference to me at all if local stores carry ammo.
See it does for me. A few reasons are;

-I often lend my rifles to our local club for open house days. Usually sponsored by local stores, so if its something they stock, I can give people something new to shoot, draw them in to promote the club and the sport.

-Sometimes work takes me all over the map for months on end, so I don't always have time to reload. It is nice to know I can just go to the store and pick up something and get to the woods. I know you can argue the fact I haven't used the store bought round and that I may not know it as well, it just makes me feel less stressed. I normally only buy what I have already used, and what gets me in the field away from work faster is best!!

It comes down to your personal preference to order online, wait for the mail, then prep, load, then head to the range or field. My preference is if I want to shoot when I am not working, I don't want to be reloading, I want to be shooting. I take reloading as a separate hobby to shooting, and enjoyable at different times.

Comes down to personal preference more then anything Cam1936

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