Well, if it's not a 223, what the hell is it? (Pics)

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I have been messing around with some cartridges. Can you guess what this one is?

It's tricky...

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Here's another angle.

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No I didn't just squash a digital image. Many of you may already recognize this cartridge. For those that don't, here's a hint;
It fits (quite nicely I might add) in the following handgun.

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I am not quite finished with these. Although they chamber easily, they may need a neck turning to ensure I don't add any unwanted pressure by haveing the necks to tight in the chamber. They do seem pretty good so far though. :)
I might want to consider adjusting my extractor a bit. The grooves are a little bit different.
 
A 223 Remington that you sized into a 7.62x25. Is that brass that hard to come by?

Shouldn't your topic be:

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Well, if it's not a 233, what the hell is it? (Pics)
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? Or was that just a trick to get us to wonder and read your post? :roll:

Is there a volume difference being that the 223 is a rifle cartridge designed for higher pressures?


Fudd
 
Neck turn that 223 brass. You can also use 30Mauser brass which is sometimes available. Was available in bulk when I had my Tok.

I am sure you know about starting way low due to reduced case capacity.

Jerry
 
Whoops, should be .223, not .233

Yes, the brass is costly and tough to get around here. I realize that case capacit is lower too. I will adjust my loads accordingly.
 
Ritchie said:
Cart conv book says you'd need to neck ream to use .223 brass. Use .38 spl brass, turn rim to .390.

hmmm... I think I want a Tok now. :D
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I may or may not have to neck ream/turn. My Type 54-1 seems to be pretty roomy.

As for 38 SPL, I believe it's more work than turning the rim down (if I was lucky enough to have a lathe), a proper groove has to be made as well.

.223 is just easier.


Supposedly 9mm Magnum is the easiest. I just can't see me finding any of that around anytime soon.
 
I hear what yer saying, I'm gonna try with .38 SPL as they already have a groove under the head. The cartridge book says to use those.
If I make the jig to hold a cartridge, I know someone who'll turn and chamfer them for $20 /250 including rough trimming so I can use a trimmer later after F/L sizing. (If he only wants 20 bucks, I'm gonna let him do it! ) :twisted:

did you need much annealing of the .223 brass to work it?
 
Ritchie said:
I hear what yer saying, I'm gonna try with .38 SPL as they already have a groove under the head. The cartridge book says to use those.
If I make the jig to hold a cartridge, I know someone who'll turn and chamfer them for $20 /250 including rough trimming so I can use a trimmer later after F/L sizing. (If he only wants 20 bucks, I'm gonna let him do it! ) :twisted:

did you need much annealing of the .223 brass to work it?
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Sounds like a good deal on that 38 spl turning. I wonder about the 38 spl groove depth.


I didn't have to anneal much at all. I annealed some and found that in comparison to cases I didn't anneal, the results were the same. With enough lube, all press work was easy (just time consuming).
 
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