What "ammo" for CAS?

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Don't the shells have ground up corn or something similar that breaks the balloon or is it just the burning powder?

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Vince
 
Nope .. they use real bullets and real shot!! What you're talking about may be used for those rodeo ride and shoot competitions where there are spectators that may be in the line of fire (though not in close proximity).
 
I imagine you're talking about Cowboy Mounted Shooting (CMS) as opposed to CAS which is Cowboy ACtion Shooting. Yes, for mounted shooting it is just black powder in the shells. The unburned grains of powder act like bird shot and break the balloons. In CAS, we use real lead bullets, etc on steel reactive targets.
 
Lead Round Nose only ??

Am I right in thinking that LRN is all that is allowed for CAS? If so, does anyone know what commercial loads are available in .357mag that have LRN bullets?

It is not to hard to find .38 special, but .357 looks to be hard to find in Canada. I know I would be buying it in bulk if I could find any :confused:
 
Lead bullets, no gascheck, no jacketed ammo only in pistol cal. firearms,
I use lead FPRN so they work in carbines and pistol, but to the best of my knoledge bullet style dosen't matter.
Lots of "pre rolled" ammo available here from the banner sponsors or roll your own.
Regards
Doc
Saskatchewan Association of Wild West Shooters / www.sawws.com
 
Am I right in thinking that LRN is all that is allowed for CAS? If so, does anyone know what commercial loads are available in .357mag that have LRN bullets?

It is not to hard to find .38 special, but .357 looks to be hard to find in Canada. I know I would be buying it in bulk if I could find any :confused:

In CAS matches you're not allowed to shoot full power .357Mag rounds. The higher power and velocity would dent or hole the targets.

The CAS rule book sets limits on the minimum and maximum bullet velocities allowed. The minimum is to avoid folks shooting at such rediculously low power levels that they gain a significant speed advantage and the maximum is to avoid damage to the steel targets.

By all means shoot whatever magnum ammo you want for regular range plinking. But for CAS matches you need to load up with regular .38Spl lead bullets. And they do not need to specifically be Lead Round Nose. Any non jacketed lead round which protrudes from the cases is allowed. The protrusion rule is so that live ammo can be easily identified. So no fully seated wad cutter bullets are allowed. But SWC is popular as well as the fat looking RNFP design. But most find that the LRN shape feeds through the rifle more easily.

But none of this prevents you from using the magnum cases and reloading them to power levels that result in velocities within the acceptable range. Lots of folks do that so that the cases cycle more consistently in the lever rifle or for other reasons.
 
Allowed muzzle velocity for pistols is 1,000 fps MAXIMUM
and for pistol caliber rifles is 1,400 fps MAXIMUM, the majority of shooters are shooting lead bullets at 1/3 less than the maximum velocity allowed. If you want to shoot cowboy, you better be learning to reload or you'll break the bank.
 
Don't the shells have ground up corn or something similar that breaks the balloon or is it just the burning powder?

Regards

Vince

NAY.

Cowboy Action Shooting is real bullets and ammo
Fast Draw sometimes use ground up corn, or other shells or Wax bullets.
Mounted Shooting uses just the powder to pop balloons

Am I right in thinking that LRN is all that is allowed for CAS? If so, does anyone know what commercial loads are available in .357mag that have LRN bullets?

It is not to hard to find .38 special, but .357 looks to be hard to find in Canada. I know I would be buying it in bulk if I could find any :confused:

Lean Round Nose is not all that is allowed. RNFP, are common. Wolf make cowboy rounds in 38 Special which are great.

Also, some indoor matches throughout the winter will allow jacketed ammo just to keep the air clean, so check where you want to go. As previously mentioned, some targets will not stand up well to full power 357 loads, so check with your match director and see. I know some guys are using full power lead 44 magnum ammo (not fun in my opinion).
 
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