What are old used Ponsness 800 's going for these day's

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I aquired a pile of old Federal full plastic Gold Medal hulls, lead shot, and wads from an estate sale.

The Mec progressive loader was already sold.

Does anyone have an idea what used Ponsness Model 800 loaders are selling for?

Thanks.
 
Rob! said:
Two sold about a month ago in the EE. 375 and 475. I would have those quite a bargain.
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Thanks Rob. That is what I figure they are going for.

I am just costing out the capital asset in this little venture.

I believe Ponsness is still one of the best for pounding out consistent loads. Especially that little wad pressure control.

Any story on the "Bambino" for the new father to rock in his arms?
 
Be careful when looking at old 800 series pw loaders.
Parts for some are no longer produced, and some are no longer supported by PW.
S&W Supply…”Whiz” White is the most Canada friendly PW guy I have found. Look him up and shoot him an e mail. He is normally glad to help.
I am a huge PW fan…. Currently running an 800+ with servo drive, and quick change tooling for 12/20 and 28 ga. As well as a 900 in 410.
SW keeps me in parts, and sound advice.
 
My 2 cents may not count for much since I've never owned a PW but that stems from several friends that have and these guys were good shotshell loaders with many, many years and hundreds of thousands of rounds under their belts on their machines. From what I have witnessed I felt the PW machines were expensive for what they could do. All the PW reloader users I ever met had the most # of blooper loads to good load ratios I ever encountered and they all had the most leaky shells for lack of a better term I've seen. Shells where shot leaked from crimps. As well they had bins and bins of shells that got crushed in the machine they had to go through and cut open to repurpose. The one fellow even built a little device on a dedicated depriming/resizing machine to deprime new primers w/o damaging them to reuse them. He had 8 PW's 2 of which were dedicated for parts to keep the others going. He recently finished loading a huge pile of components like you from an estate sale then went through 55 years worth of barrels of faulty loads from his machines and cut them all open and reused them. I sat watching him almost daily for the better part of 6 months churning out hundreds of rounds a day to load everything up before closing his shop and retiring. He sold all but one his PW's and in the end had to sell them for $200-$250 to move them as nobody loads any more due to component prices and availability. He sold his last pair, one working and a spare for parts to a young guy at our club for $275 and threw in a 45 gallon plastic barrel full of once fired AA hulls, the same in a barrel of once fired Gold Medal, and a 500 box of once fired Nitro 27 hulls plus a box of assorted wads(approx 5000) just to get rid of the stuff. He had been offering the hulls and wads to every trapshooter we shoot with for the past few seasons and nobody wanted them. Nobody reloads any longer, or at least very, very few do. If you can get that PW at a bargain basement price go for it but you'd best ensure it's working. To me they are a fussy machine and I personally prefer a MEC but that's my opinion. I no longer reload either. When reloads started to cost more than factory loads years ago I dumped all I had while some were still arguing they could load cheaper. Nowadays that argument is no longer valid if you have to purchase new components.
 
the spank said:
My 2 cents may not count for much since I've never owned a PW but that stems from several friends that have and these guys were good shotshell loaders with many, many years and hundreds of thousands of rounds under their belts on their machines. From what I have witnessed I felt the PW machines were expensive for what they could do. All the PW reloader users I ever met had the most # of blooper loads to good load ratios I ever encountered and they all had the most leaky shells for lack of a better term I've seen. Shells where shot leaked from crimps. As well they had bins and bins of shells that got crushed in the machine they had to go through and cut open to repurpose. The one fellow even built a little device on a dedicated depriming/resizing machine to deprime new primers w/o damaging them to reuse them. He had 8 PW's 2 of which were dedicated for parts to keep the others going. He recently finished loading a huge pile of components like you from an estate sale then went through 55 years worth of barrels of faulty loads from his machines and cut them all open and reused them. I sat watching him almost daily for the better part of 6 months churning out hundreds of rounds a day to load everything up before closing his shop and retiring. He sold all but one his PW's and in the end had to sell them for $200-$250 to move them as nobody loads any more due to component prices and availability. He sold his last pair, one working and a spare for parts to a young guy at our club for $275 and threw in a 45 gallon plastic barrel full of once fired AA hulls, the same in a barrel of once fired Gold Medal, and a 500 box of once fired Nitro 27 hulls plus a box of assorted wads(approx 5000) just to get rid of the stuff. He had been offering the hulls and wads to every trapshooter we shoot with for the past few seasons and nobody wanted them. Nobody reloads any longer, or at least very, very few do. If you can get that PW at a bargain basement price go for it but you'd best ensure it's working. To me they are a fussy machine and I personally prefer a MEC but that's my opinion. I no longer reload either. When reloads started to cost more than factory loads years ago I dumped all I had while some were still arguing they could load cheaper. Nowadays that argument is no longer valid if you have to purchase new components.
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Thanks Spank.

Maybe that is why the Mec was bought up.

I started on a Ponsness 375.

Never worked much on a Mec.

Just trying to do some costing.

Thank you Mister spank and everyone giving me advise.
 
For what it's worth, I owned a PW 800 in the 80's, reloaded thousands upon thousands of 12 ga shells.
I shot trap for about 5 years, and sold it for what i paid for it. I did have the odd bloop round, but that would have been, in most case operator fault.
It's usually the powder that gets missed, but the percent of bad shells were minimal. I think it was a great machine, but I have never used anything else to compare.
I had on occasion, on of my kids help me load up a case (500) at that time, for a couple of shoots i was going to on the next weekend. Well I was in Bassano for a Saturday only shoot, had a few bloops out of my first 100, but won despite, then a few more bloops at handicap, and won that despite, doubles was a blast when the first shot was just a primer and then the next shot with powder in it, not very smooth, I couldn't recover from that. Any way they ran a calcutta, and the guy that bought me immediately came over and gave me 4 boxes of factory AA's. The whole place roared, I thought it was pretty myself. I did end up making the guy some money, can't remember what, but I think he might have broke even. That Bassano club was always a good time.
Regardless the ponsness was a good machine for me. my 2 cents.
 
hogiron said:
For what it's worth, I owned a PW 800 in the 80's, reloaded thousands upon thousands of 12 ga shells.
I shot trap for about 5 years, and sold it for what i paid for it. I did have the odd bloop round, but that would have been, in most case operator fault.
It's usually the powder that gets missed, but the percent of bad shells were minimal. I think it was a great machine, but I have never used anything else to compare.
I had on occasion, on of my kids help me load up a case (500) at that time, for a couple of shoots i was going to on the next weekend. Well I was in Bassano for a Saturday only shoot, had a few bloops out of my first 100, but won despite, then a few more bloops at handicap, and won that despite, doubles was a blast when the first shot was just a primer and then the next shot with powder in it, not very smooth, I couldn't recover from that. Any way they ran a calcutta, and the guy that bought me immediately came over and gave me 4 boxes of factory AA's. The whole place roared, I thought it was pretty myself. I did end up making the guy some money, can't remember what, but I think he might have broke even. That Bassano club was always a good time.
Regardless the ponsness was a good machine for me. my 2 cents.
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Hahaha.... that's what I call looking after your investment! Lol
 
hogiron said:
For what it's worth, I owned a PW 800 in the 80's, reloaded thousands upon thousands of 12 ga shells.
I shot trap for about 5 years, and sold it for what i paid for it. I did have the odd bloop round, but that would have been, in most case operator fault.
It's usually the powder that gets missed, but the percent of bad shells were minimal. I think it was a great machine, but I have never used anything else to compare.
I had on occasion, on of my kids help me load up a case (500) at that time, for a couple of shoots i was going to on the next weekend. Well I was in Bassano for a Saturday only shoot, had a few bloops out of my first 100, but won despite, then a few more bloops at handicap, and won that despite, doubles was a blast when the first shot was just a primer and then the next shot with powder in it, not very smooth, I couldn't recover from that. Any way they ran a calcutta, and the guy that bought me immediately came over and gave me 4 boxes of factory AA's. The whole place roared, I thought it was pretty myself. I did end up making the guy some money, can't remember what, but I think he might have broke even. That Bassano club was always a good time.
Regardless the ponsness was a good machine for me. my 2 cents.
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Good story, that would have been funny to be witness too. Reminds me of the time one of our club guys was shooting the Southern Grand at Silver Dollar in Florida and the guy who bought him approached him before the shoot and asked what he needed to win the handicap event. He said show up with a coffee mug have full of whiskey before I shoot for me to drink and I'll win you the pot and damned if the guy didn't show up with the whiskey, the fellow chugged it as one shot and won the handicap and calcutta that afternoon!!
You proved my point about blooper loads. All my friends that load with PW always have a few bloopers every 100 rounds. I never had a single blooper in 17 years of loading with a Mec. I think the PW has a tendency to not drop powder during the process? I never saw so many bloopers or shells with messed up crimps as with a PW. Just wasn't my cup of tea to be honest and all the missed loadings they spilled during the loading process made me not want one. My buddy that just closed shop to retire could fill a couple shot bags with spilled shot from the PW hanging up and dropping it in the wrong stage of the loading process too.
 
hey spank, i don't recall the bad crimps, but must of just shrugged them off, because my shell boxes always had loose shot in them.
i never blamed the reloads for poor scores, the only one i ever questioned, was one shoot at the canadians, i missed my 80th bird to shoot 99. the shell wasn't a bloop, just not enough shot to get to the target i guess.
i also remember the wood dowel, but mostly remember the full length shotgun cleaner rod, (had the full length cleaner fuzz).
none the less i've got all kinds of memory from those days. I shoot with a guy from Saskatchewan that never wore a shirt, through all 500 rounds.
 
hogiron said:
hey spank, i don't recall the bad crimps, but must of just shrugged them off, because my shell boxes always had loose shot in them.
i never blamed the reloads for poor scores, the only one i ever questioned, was one shoot at the canadians, i missed my 80th bird to shoot 99. the shell wasn't a bloop, just not enough shot to get to the target i guess.
i also remember the wood dowel, but mostly remember the full length shotgun cleaner rod, (had the full length cleaner fuzz).
none the less i've got all kinds of memory from those days. I shoot with a guy from Saskatchewan that never wore a shirt, through all 500 rounds.
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I remember the fuzzy cleaner rods too, there was one of each on the rack at our club.

A friend of mine carried his reloads in a military ammo tin and by the time he shot all the ammo there was enough shot in it to fill a couple shells. :rolleyes:

We had a fellow in Ontario who did the same and at the end of day 1 at a weekend long shoot in Ontario's hot humid heat he would have no skin left on his shoulder, just a raw red bleeding mess and he wondered how he developed a flinch and had to go to a release trigger...:confused:
 
Some folks are afraid of being viewed as unmanly by not using good recoil protection such as gell pads in your vest and a good recoil pad but it really pays dividends in the long run when the flinches develop and you eventually can't pull the trigger any more. Good hearing protection is also a must for warding off the flinches but it doesn't seem to matter how carefull you are and for most folks the flinch eventaully comes. I've never been particularily recoil sensative and I've always protected myself fairly well over the years, I shoot a heavy gun with light loads and I'll flinch once in about every 100 shots often causing me to miss by a mile!
 
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