Hi, All. New to the forum. Last week I submitted my RPAL application. It arrived in Miramachi on Wednesday. It hasn't shown up online yet. I'll give it another week, then I'll call. In the meantime, I'm curious. What do they ask in the interviews? How long does it last? Is it onerous on the references?
What do they Ask in the PAL/RPAL interview?
- Thread starter quantumspin
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Interview lasts at most 5-10 mins. they ask you pretty much the same questions you filled out on the app, bankruptcy, depression, they ask how long you have known your references, why are you applying for Rpal (target shooting at range) just answer truthfully with yes or no and its a piece of cake. Dont joke around with them and make sure your references know why you applied foRpal as well. same goes for them, they ask them if you are fascinated with violent movies, depression and how long they have known you.
Hope this helps and good luck!
Hope this helps and good luck!
For both applicant and reference:
Are you are available to speak openly and freely?
What is your name?
Can you spell it?
What is your current address?
For the applicant:
Are you currently employed?
Why do you want a RPAL?
Have you ever been charged with a crime?
Have you ever been treated for mental issues?
Are you under any medication for depression etc?
For the references:
How long have you known the applicant?
Are you being forced by the applicant to answer any questions or are you answering on your own free will?
Does the applicant show any fixation/interest in violent movies, games or news articles?
Has the applicant ever been treated for any mental disorders or depression?
Has the applicant ever been charged with a crime?
Does the applicant lose their temper or show any signs of a violent nature?
Thank you and have a nice day.
Are you are available to speak openly and freely?
What is your name?
Can you spell it?
What is your current address?
For the applicant:
Are you currently employed?
Why do you want a RPAL?
Have you ever been charged with a crime?
Have you ever been treated for mental issues?
Are you under any medication for depression etc?
For the references:
How long have you known the applicant?
Are you being forced by the applicant to answer any questions or are you answering on your own free will?
Does the applicant show any fixation/interest in violent movies, games or news articles?
Has the applicant ever been treated for any mental disorders or depression?
Has the applicant ever been charged with a crime?
Does the applicant lose their temper or show any signs of a violent nature?
Thank you and have a nice day.
FightingIrish
Regular
- Location
- Central Alberta
I've been curious since I filled mine out... why do they ask about Bankruptcy? What possible relevance could that have?
FightingIrish
Regular
- Location
- Central Alberta
That's QUITE a presumptuous connection between the two for the CFC to make. I happen to know people who have filed bankruptcy and their life is exponentially better than it was before. Interesting.
Financial hardship does often accompany suicide and violent crime though, so for someone who is newly bankrupt to suddenly want guns could warrant further investigation.
- Location
- B.C. (southern interior)
References will get asked if they where aware of being listed as a reference, if they are able to speak freely, if they are being pressured to be a reference, if you are violent, when was the last time they saw you be violent, have you ever expressed violence towards employment or education, why they think you want a gun(coach them to say target shooting), if there would be a reason for them to be concerned with you owning a gun, do they think it would affect public safety if you where able to buy guns...then they give them a number to call if they become concerned
They will ask you, basically everything on the form... prescriptions, last time you where depressed or expressed violence, marital status why you want restricted firearms(for the love of god just say target shooting)...
In my experience as a reference and as an applicant the applicant interview was no sweat it was more like they are confirming what you wrote down, as a reference it was more like an interrogation to get you to divulge some secret. At least in my opinion anyways
They will ask you, basically everything on the form... prescriptions, last time you where depressed or expressed violence, marital status why you want restricted firearms(for the love of god just say target shooting)...
In my experience as a reference and as an applicant the applicant interview was no sweat it was more like they are confirming what you wrote down, as a reference it was more like an interrogation to get you to divulge some secret. At least in my opinion anyways
canucklehead
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Calgary, AB
Fully agree. I was a reference for two people in the past month. The questions are phrased so they can not be yes/no.
"Describe for me a time where you saw 'person of interest' use violence to solve a problem?" - Uh... hasn't happened? What are you looking for?
"Describe for me a time where you saw 'person of interest' show fascination or obsession with a public/school shooting?" Uh - he doesn't?
"Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Conservative Party of Canada?" Ahh... i see now...
The RCMP woke me up the other morning(I'm on nights) and did my interview in less that 5 minutes.
They basically confirmed my answers on my application.
FYI they received my application Dec 22, cashed my checque Jan 18th and called Tuesday morning the 29th.
They basically confirmed my answers on my application.
FYI they received my application Dec 22, cashed my checque Jan 18th and called Tuesday morning the 29th.
When they Called me up it was all the questions on the application form, then they asked me how long I knew my references, and where I met them. Before I could text one of my references after the call they were already on the phone with the SQ answering the same sort of questions.
FightingIrish
Regular
- Location
- Central Alberta
Depression or suicide is much more likely BEFORE filing bankruptcy, as the process of filing is what brings relief to the person. It's the beginning of a fresh start, so I'd be awfully surprised if someone committed suicide AFTER filing. Just my two cents.
Not that I have stats but no, I don't agree. It is a fresh start but that's at least a seven year road with a ton of pot holes. Claiming bankruptcy could be a long term problem, it could mean they are entering a desperate time in their life, will the steal bread to feed their family?
People will fight bankruptcy because they see it as claiming they've failed financially, they now need a cosigner for a monthly cell phone, can't get a credit card and book a hotel or rental car. Yes its a new start but its not all peaches and cream.
Keep in mind this doesn't mean someone will be denied based on that alone. They don't follow up with "If your bankrupt do you think spending your money on ammunition is wise? Have you kids eaten? Wait how are you going to buy a gun?"
FightingIrish
Regular
- Location
- Central Alberta
I understand your points, but there certainly are a lot of misconceptions out there. It's not a seven year road with a ton of potholes. Yes, it appears on your credit bureau for seven years, but it only really impacts a person negatively (within reason) for the first two. Most people are automatically discharged within 9 months of filing (unless it's not your first time or you make too mcuh money), and credit rebuilding starts there. The day you're discharged, you are legally debt free, you can get a credit card (guaranteed), so that eliminates the credit card, booking a hotel, rental car issues right there. And, if I'm not mistaken, phone service is now considered a necessity (categorized as a "utility" in the Canada Bankruptcy Act with the likes of heat, power, water), and therefore cannot be legally refused - although I'm certain that providers would try to refuse you and hope you don't push the issue.
To add to that, bankruptcy trustees are now guaranteeing a mortgage approval within 2.5-3 years of discharge with the same rates you and I can get. Yes, I believe a lot of people would likely feel they've failed financially, but if you're in a position where filing bankrupcty is a seriously considered option, there's not much further down to go. Filing stops the harassing calls and letters from credit collectors (which only add to the stress of already being financially screwed). It also stops you from feeling obligated to make payments on debt you can't afford when buying groceries is more important. So, financially speaking (and any trustee will likely tell you) filing is the turning point for many. Less stress, more money to live on, and a fresh start. Once that person has received their official automatic discharge, you can only go up. I can see CFC being concerned with someone who is IN bankruptcy, but not someone who has already gone through the process, paid their fees and fulfilled their obligations of the bankrupcty process and been discharged.
Now, I understand not everyone likely has this view, but from my experiences with the people I know who've gone through it, this is the way it is (Alberta at least, although the bankruptcy act is federal). It's definitely not all peaches and cream, but it's a process that exists because it's better than the alternative (which would be suicide or depression). Unfotunately for many, filing isn't really an option. Divorce and child custody battles are the most common reasons people file. Some are forced to file from being idiots with money, but not the majority. Just my two cents. I'll stop rambling now.
Fair enough, I can agree or at least assume what your saying makes sense. I did watch some people go through this in the early 90s when I was younger. Cell phones were not a necessity etc.
But what you've done is paint a better picture of their situation but one where you can agree, asking about it and having some follow up questions give a better state of where this person is. They won't be denied but 'just to be safe' they've got a few more questions.
I checked off job loss on my form so they asked about that. I left my job because I was moving and was unable to transfer. There's no bad blood (although I'm pissed former work kept me hanging for months just to tell me that) but they wanted to know I didn't lie, no problem.
I'm not arguing if its fair to ask but I don't see a problem with it, there could be situations where it could lead to something. If this person filed yesterday and felt they got screwed bc they were selling a car and the buyer hasn't paid... you know weird things like that.
Keep in mind some jobs are interested in your financial standing, like border security. You may be more likely to take a payoff if you financially unstable, doesn't mean you won't get the job but they may watch you.
Anyhow, that's for keeping it civil many people can't do that anywhere on the net not just here. If you want to talk more just pm me.
Originally when I saw this thread I was going to say "The ask how crazy you are on a scale of sitting in the corner rocking, to full blown Joker insanity"
But what you've done is paint a better picture of their situation but one where you can agree, asking about it and having some follow up questions give a better state of where this person is. They won't be denied but 'just to be safe' they've got a few more questions.
I checked off job loss on my form so they asked about that. I left my job because I was moving and was unable to transfer. There's no bad blood (although I'm pissed former work kept me hanging for months just to tell me that) but they wanted to know I didn't lie, no problem.
I'm not arguing if its fair to ask but I don't see a problem with it, there could be situations where it could lead to something. If this person filed yesterday and felt they got screwed bc they were selling a car and the buyer hasn't paid... you know weird things like that.
Keep in mind some jobs are interested in your financial standing, like border security. You may be more likely to take a payoff if you financially unstable, doesn't mean you won't get the job but they may watch you.
Anyhow, that's for keeping it civil many people can't do that anywhere on the net not just here. If you want to talk more just pm me.
Originally when I saw this thread I was going to say "The ask how crazy you are on a scale of sitting in the corner rocking, to full blown Joker insanity"
In some cases they my just call one reference or just talk to you. This is normally done with people that have very high levels of security clearance; P.I.s, Corporate or high level Security Officers or Investigators and some Military personal. However this maybe a double edged sword as in some cases it will push these people into a higher level of investigation then normal. One Military friend of mine needed to get a letter from a civilian Doctor staining he truly had no signs of PTSD. One of my old Co-workers had a six month ordeal to go through due to his security clearance was far higher then what the RCMP get.
You have to remember now days they know the answers they are looking for before they call you. I was asked only one key question about a person I referenced " do you think the distance between "X" and his father has aided in forms of mental Health issues?" As "X" was very well liked and popular at work and out side of work I told them as such and that is all they asked.
You have to remember now days they know the answers they are looking for before they call you. I was asked only one key question about a person I referenced " do you think the distance between "X" and his father has aided in forms of mental Health issues?" As "X" was very well liked and popular at work and out side of work I told them as such and that is all they asked.
