What factory slugs will go thru full choke and be accurate?
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I don't agree. I've shot slugs through fixed full chokes and full choke tubes with no problems. It is not however my first choice for accuracy. Each shotgun and slug combination is a law unto itself. To find the best choice for your gun usually requires some experimentation.
Brennekes are accurate in my gun. They might not be in yours. The only thing to do is buy a selection of slugs and find out what works in your gun.
FWIW, I've always found Simmons in Hamilton has a good supply of Brennekes. That's where I buy mine.
Each gun is an entity of it's own, and this especially applies to slugs in shotguns! I've seen 2 fairly identical guns deliver some very different results with the same ammo. As a general rule, if you are using a modern firearm in good condition, you can fire a slug out of a choked barrel, Depending on sabot or full bore size, a sabot will squeeze down and pass through a choke with out much distress, a full bore diameter soft lead slug will usually do the same, as long as it's not a super hard alloy / lead mix. When this happens, You may notice stickier extraction in a few cases, indicating a bit of a pressure increase. Avoid that brand and move on to another.
As for accuracy, try a few types / brands and see what your gun prefferes. I have found that it's usully a love it or hate it affair. I live in a slug zone, and have played with many different combo's over the years. One of my el cheapo custom ideas, a single shot Cooey 840, 20" barrel with a 4" rifled choke tude added, and a scout scope, would shoot 2 " groups with one brand of slugs all day, but would print a 18" pattern with another, all of them sideways! Play with it and see what it likes.
My longest slug shot (successful) on a deer was 132 paces. A solid lead Challenger base attached type slug hit the buck facing me, 3" off center line, drilled straight through ribs, comming to rest undet the hide on the left rear quarter. The hit flipped him over onto his back, one of the most spectacular kills I've ever seen! I would not hesitate to use a modern slug up to the 150 yard range, after that you start to get into howitzer trajectories.
As for accuracy, try a few types / brands and see what your gun prefferes. I have found that it's usully a love it or hate it affair. I live in a slug zone, and have played with many different combo's over the years. One of my el cheapo custom ideas, a single shot Cooey 840, 20" barrel with a 4" rifled choke tude added, and a scout scope, would shoot 2 " groups with one brand of slugs all day, but would print a 18" pattern with another, all of them sideways! Play with it and see what it likes.
My longest slug shot (successful) on a deer was 132 paces. A solid lead Challenger base attached type slug hit the buck facing me, 3" off center line, drilled straight through ribs, comming to rest undet the hide on the left rear quarter. The hit flipped him over onto his back, one of the most spectacular kills I've ever seen! I would not hesitate to use a modern slug up to the 150 yard range, after that you start to get into howitzer trajectories.
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
X 3 on the Brennekes Rotweill Classic 2 3/4 inch 1 1/8 ounce slug, with the screwed on felt base, very accurate out of my Ithaca. (two inch group @ 60-70 yards)
12 gauge Ithaca M37, marked DSPS, 20 inch smoothbore barrel, 0.691-0.693 (pretty much full choke)
By the way Super X Winchester 2 3/4 in foster style as good in accuracy too, in the above firearm. Less drop than the Brennekes. But I purchased the German slugs for deep penetration.
Just for giggles, another Ithaca M37 with a full choke 20 gauge barrel, measuring .596 (full ) gave terrible results with Federal standard 2 3/4 inch fosters!
(Literally 12-15 inch patterns at 30 paces!)
Weird!
PS Just like Chupac. I was at first very hesitant about shooting slugs in my thin walled Ithaca shotgun barrels. I then went to various well informed persons and voiced my concerns, and they assured me brennekes would not be an issue for my slug shooters.
So Svt-40 my friend, if I were you I would contact the manufacturer. And in all probability they will tell you what is safe to fire in your firearm. To find out what is the most accurate option for you, I would post a question on Shotgunworld.com for your specific firearm/choke.
Much like CGN, Shotgunworld.com has many special interest boards there.
And most importantly, confirm for yourself at the range, with a nice variety of recommended choices.
Cheers....
12 gauge Ithaca M37, marked DSPS, 20 inch smoothbore barrel, 0.691-0.693 (pretty much full choke)
By the way Super X Winchester 2 3/4 in foster style as good in accuracy too, in the above firearm. Less drop than the Brennekes. But I purchased the German slugs for deep penetration.
Just for giggles, another Ithaca M37 with a full choke 20 gauge barrel, measuring .596 (full ) gave terrible results with Federal standard 2 3/4 inch fosters!
(Literally 12-15 inch patterns at 30 paces!)
Weird!
PS Just like Chupac. I was at first very hesitant about shooting slugs in my thin walled Ithaca shotgun barrels. I then went to various well informed persons and voiced my concerns, and they assured me brennekes would not be an issue for my slug shooters.
So Svt-40 my friend, if I were you I would contact the manufacturer. And in all probability they will tell you what is safe to fire in your firearm. To find out what is the most accurate option for you, I would post a question on Shotgunworld.com for your specific firearm/choke.
Much like CGN, Shotgunworld.com has many special interest boards there.
And most importantly, confirm for yourself at the range, with a nice variety of recommended choices.
Cheers....
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You can DEFINATELY punch rifled slugs through a full choke. They're designed for that. (Other slugs like sabots, no, as they're meant for rifled slug barrels)
Accuracy....well....they do seem to go high. I put one right across the back of a beautiful trophy buck. Managed to hit him with the wad! Hilarious!! That buck jumped 4 feet straight up in the air with legs a flailing, and before he hit the ground, he was gone like a drag car!!
I realized what happened after it was too late.
Anyway....enough with my yappin.
YES to rifled slugs in a fully choked smooth bore barrel.
NO to accuracy.
Accuracy....well....they do seem to go high. I put one right across the back of a beautiful trophy buck. Managed to hit him with the wad! Hilarious!! That buck jumped 4 feet straight up in the air with legs a flailing, and before he hit the ground, he was gone like a drag car!!
I realized what happened after it was too late.
Anyway....enough with my yappin.
YES to rifled slugs in a fully choked smooth bore barrel.
NO to accuracy.
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
None of my slugs choices, in my experiments registered high in my smoothbore slug shooting barrels....
I have always used the factory iron sights, and my accuracy requirements were more than acceptable IMHO.
So, results vary. Hence recommended range time for your combination.
PS: Brenneke loaded factory slugs, available from Accuracy Plus out of Peterbourgh.
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After reading some of these posts, it almost seems like a combination of the gun and the slug you're using that will affect your accuracy.
Mine seems to go high, but that could be what I'm using. Personally, I don't like slugs. I likes me .308!
BTW.....what is IMHO??
A kind of a range report
Tried Brenneke 1 oz slugs today at the range.
Using the 24" full choke shotty I shot three slugs at 50 yards and only one has hit an edge of the target.
No idea where the other two went. What I found was that it was very hard to aim. The flat grove on top of the receiver was as wide as the target and I had to bring my head down in a very uncomfortable pose in order to aim, so now I have a nice bruise on my right chick.
Also shot two remaining slugs out of a variable chock 20" shotgun and none connected. Same problem with aiming and recoil. Felt like was hit with a hammer right into that bone under the eye.
Tried Brenneke 1 oz slugs today at the range.
Using the 24" full choke shotty I shot three slugs at 50 yards and only one has hit an edge of the target.
No idea where the other two went. What I found was that it was very hard to aim. The flat grove on top of the receiver was as wide as the target and I had to bring my head down in a very uncomfortable pose in order to aim, so now I have a nice bruise on my right chick.
Also shot two remaining slugs out of a variable chock 20" shotgun and none connected. Same problem with aiming and recoil. Felt like was hit with a hammer right into that bone under the eye.
Wild_Thing
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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I picked up a rifled barrel for my Mossberg Ulti-Mag 835. It has rifle sights, not a cantilever scope mount so I mounted a Bushnell 3200 3-9X40 scope on a weaver base on the receiver. I have tried it with a few brands of sabot slugs. I have heard it said by some that they have shot great groups out to 100+ yards with their rigs. From my results, I wouldn't feel comfortable taking shots at game much past that, groups around 3"+ on my best days.
