What happened to the’1’ on this Inland M1 carbine?
No '1' on this M1 carbine.
Inland serial number 769724.
Barrel date –Inland 7-43.
Bavaria Rural Police marked.
Bottom of trigger guard- WB-LP-2265
(Württemberg Landes Polizei.- The Wuerttemberg inventory number is 2265)
The stock markings.
This Carbine.
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Summary description of this gun by Jim Mock the Bavarian M1 carbine guru.
Summary:
Yes, this one is a mixmaster when it comes to the original U.S. parts and the German markings. But there's a reason related to it's history
The markings on the trigger guard are from the Wuerttemberg Landes Polizei. Wuerttemberg's version of Bavaria's Rural Police. This marking dates the carbine as given to the Germans of Wuerttemberg between the end of the war and prior to 1952, likely prior to 1948 and one of the first carbines given to the Germans. The Wuerttemberg inventory number 2265 is not the earliest I've seen, but certainly not detracting from it's history.
If you look at the receiver, barrel, front sight and barrel band they all appear to have been reblued. This was likely done after the carbine was turned over to Bavaria by Wuerttemberg. What indicates the trigger housing is not just a mismatch is the area on the receiver below the serial number. After the Bavarians treated the receiver etc with hot black oxide, they buffed down this area below the serial number. The reason for this...this is where Wuerttemberg placed the initials L.P.W., and the antler of Wuerttemberg. Wuerttemberg did not stamp the last digits of the serial number on the rear of the trigger housing, slide, bolt, and sometimes slingwell.
L.P.W. initials removed behind the serial number.
To put this another way...this carbine indicates that it was given to Bavaria by Wuerttemberg, who got it probably 1946-1948. I've seen one other but without the buffed down area where the LPW should be. I suspected this, but this carbine is significant proof. That it went to the Rural Police from the Landes Polizei is a good possibility. The other carbine I saw was the same markings and a similar configuration. The history of this carbine is it served early on and in two different German States, of the total of 3 that got M1 carbines. The Rural Police phased the carbines out completely about 1967/1968.
The other part of this rifle that's of interest is the 6 digit Inland serial number along with the rear sight, barrel, barrel band, and front sight. These are original Inland
The stock is another positive. While not an Inland stock and probably placed on the receiver etc by the Bavarians after the black oxide treatment, it's a type 1 with matching handguard and a very clear cartouche. The stock is in pretty good condition, from what I can see.
The stock stamped “RMC” was, manufactured by Rock-Ola.
Rock-Ola made some of the best M1 carbine stocks...which was about the only thing they were good at. They knew wood and were very experienced with it.
The handguard. “MU” is Underwood. However, since the stock and handguard both have the same 4 digit number, this means when the German's got the stock the handguard was already with it, on the carbine that had the matching serial number.
David
No '1' on this M1 carbine.
Inland serial number 769724.
Barrel date –Inland 7-43.
Bavaria Rural Police marked.
Bottom of trigger guard- WB-LP-2265
(Württemberg Landes Polizei.- The Wuerttemberg inventory number is 2265)
The stock markings.
This Carbine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Summary description of this gun by Jim Mock the Bavarian M1 carbine guru.
Summary:
Yes, this one is a mixmaster when it comes to the original U.S. parts and the German markings. But there's a reason related to it's history
The markings on the trigger guard are from the Wuerttemberg Landes Polizei. Wuerttemberg's version of Bavaria's Rural Police. This marking dates the carbine as given to the Germans of Wuerttemberg between the end of the war and prior to 1952, likely prior to 1948 and one of the first carbines given to the Germans. The Wuerttemberg inventory number 2265 is not the earliest I've seen, but certainly not detracting from it's history.
If you look at the receiver, barrel, front sight and barrel band they all appear to have been reblued. This was likely done after the carbine was turned over to Bavaria by Wuerttemberg. What indicates the trigger housing is not just a mismatch is the area on the receiver below the serial number. After the Bavarians treated the receiver etc with hot black oxide, they buffed down this area below the serial number. The reason for this...this is where Wuerttemberg placed the initials L.P.W., and the antler of Wuerttemberg. Wuerttemberg did not stamp the last digits of the serial number on the rear of the trigger housing, slide, bolt, and sometimes slingwell.
L.P.W. initials removed behind the serial number.
To put this another way...this carbine indicates that it was given to Bavaria by Wuerttemberg, who got it probably 1946-1948. I've seen one other but without the buffed down area where the LPW should be. I suspected this, but this carbine is significant proof. That it went to the Rural Police from the Landes Polizei is a good possibility. The other carbine I saw was the same markings and a similar configuration. The history of this carbine is it served early on and in two different German States, of the total of 3 that got M1 carbines. The Rural Police phased the carbines out completely about 1967/1968.
The other part of this rifle that's of interest is the 6 digit Inland serial number along with the rear sight, barrel, barrel band, and front sight. These are original Inland
The stock is another positive. While not an Inland stock and probably placed on the receiver etc by the Bavarians after the black oxide treatment, it's a type 1 with matching handguard and a very clear cartouche. The stock is in pretty good condition, from what I can see.
The stock stamped “RMC” was, manufactured by Rock-Ola.
Rock-Ola made some of the best M1 carbine stocks...which was about the only thing they were good at. They knew wood and were very experienced with it.
The handguard. “MU” is Underwood. However, since the stock and handguard both have the same 4 digit number, this means when the German's got the stock the handguard was already with it, on the carbine that had the matching serial number.
David
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