What I did to the Ar-180b today

im a young'un also but man that weapon is bigger than the kid! this is non-restricted!?!? also, i checked out 37mm.com but couldnt find if canadians can have them, or a price, or where to buy them?
 
uh oh. not another straitshooter ;)

The AR180b is non-restricted.

No problem owning grenade launchers here. Just can't shoot ammo that explodes on impact.

-Jamie M.
 
Luqid_Snake said:
I played airsoft many times did the whole buy the thousnads of dollers worth of plastic crap.. and sold it all
Moved to the real steel its much more fun when you cant see the wind takeing the plastic bb away from your targets besides airsoft parts are crap they break to easy. Also I can shoot my Ar in any weather not just any where above -7
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Very true, but can you shoot at other people with the AR? ;)

On Topic:

Where does one get something to shoot from those? What are they? Flares or something? Costs?
 
Blackthorne said:
Very true, but can you shoot at other people with the AR? ;)

On Topic:

Where does one get something to shoot from those? What are they? Flares or something? Costs?
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Sure you can shoot at people with the Ar-180b, but they get REAL flinchy :D
 
People shoot Film cans, Wood, plastic, Flares,Fibre glass, whatever fits :)

I seen 10 rounds of .22 , line launcher,

As long as its not airsoft bb,s its fine HAHAHA
 
NavyShooter said:
There are a number of differences between the AR-15 and the AR-180B.

Including:

Operating system
Different Upper
Different lower
Few (if any? parts compatible)

NS
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Huh so how does it compare in performance?
 
the following parts are interchangable between the AR15 and AR180B:
Mag catch
Magazines (if you call that a part)
Fire Control Group (trigger, hammer, sear, etc.)
Front sight post
Rear peep sight

The AR in AR15 stands for ARmalite. Not Assault Rifle, not Army Rifle, or what have you. The AR180B is not a version of the AR15 because it says AR in the name. It's not a non-restricted AR15, it's not a piston AR15.
 
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Comparison between the 180 and the M-16 (AR-15-ish)

http://www.ar-180.com/AR-180vsM-16.php

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History lesson from the Armalite company website:


ArmaLite set about to develop a new rifle that wouldn’t violate the Stoner gas system patents, which now belonged to Colt’s. The result was the AR-18, which began development in 1963. The combat effectiveness of the .223 caliber cartridge was now well proven. ArmaLite hoped to build a new rifle capable of displacing the AR-15 in the hands of the Army. The AR-18 combined the lessons of the AR-15 and the AR-16 in a rifle capable of competing for the many expected contracts for new rifles.

The AR-18 is best described as a sheet metal AR-15, with a different gas system. It was to prove the main focus of ArmaLite’s efforts for the next two decades.​

ArmaLite arranged exhaustive tests by the H.P. White laboratory of Belair, Maryland, to verify their claims for the AR-18 with the hope of attaining DOD and State Department endorsement of the rifle toward filling the void existing for a modern combat rifle for friends and allies around the world.
The Army conducted tests of ten prototype rifles at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Maryland, and at Ft. Benning, Georgia, during 1964. The rifle was considered as “having military potential.” The Army requested an additional 29 rifles in1964 for further testing. These 29 rifles, with a detailed operator’s manual, were produced on a tool room basis in a four-month period in compliance with the government contract. The tests were conducted as part of the Army’s Small Arms Weapons System (SAWS) tests. Not surprisingly, the early rifles needed further development.
With the military market going nowhere fast, sales were shifted to the commercial market. A commercial, semiautomatic-only version of the AR-18 was produced as the AR-180.​

In 1967 production of the AR-18 was started at the Howa Machinery Company of Nagoya, Japan. For Japanese political reasons the Howa rifles were allowed to be sold only to non-combatant nations, and even then only to non-Asian nations. During the Vietnam War, the AR-18 could not even be exported to the United States.​

As a result of continued ArmaLite effort, the Army was directed to re-evaluate the AR-18 during at the end of 1969. It was too late. By the end of 1969 the Army had already standardized the M-16, and the AR-18 was unable to displace it. Further efforts focused on overseas and commercial domestic sales. ​

The AR-18 suffered similar results in the United Kingdom a well. The Ministry of Defense first evaluated the AR-18 in March 1966. It was found to be attractive in terms of its light weight and ease of manufacture. It suffered, in the eyes of the British, from lack of gas adjustment and the lack of a buffer system. Automatic accuracy was considered somewhat inferior, and it was considered unsatisfactory in mud and “drag sand” conditions. The rifle was modified with reinforcement of the hinge area of the lower receiver, addition of an ejection port cover and an improved muzzle brake/flash suppressor and re-tested in August of 1966. The strengthening was appreciated, but the sand and mud test results were largely unchanged, and the lack of a buffer continued to be criticized.
A Howa version was evaluated by MOD in January 1969. While it again failed the mud test, most criticism concerned minor physical characteristics that could be readily resolved. ​

In fairness to the AR-18, the MOD evaluations are somewhat suspect. The Royal Small Arms Factory could hardly be considered objective evaluators. The relationship between Sterling and RSAF was rocky at best, with RSAF benefiting from government preference and a willingness to appropriate the work of others. It’s especially interesting to note that the RSAF’s later 5.56mm rifle, the SA-80, (later adopted as the L85) was nothing more than a bullpup version of the AR-180. That rifle is now regarded as probably the worst of the recent military rifles. Lessons learned during evaluations of the AR-180 were ignored in the development of the L85, and ArmaLite’s knowledge of the mechanism wasn’t available.​

Nonetheless, it was apparent that the AR-18 had not benefited from the intense field use, criticism, and rework that had been lavished on the AR-15. Major elements of its design have reappeared in several other rifles, but the AR-18 itself remains an unfinished work.​

The Irish Republican Army illegally acquired a number of Howa AR-180s in the early 1970s, and in 1973 the Japanese government halted all exports of AR-18 and AR-180 rifles. Howa produced 3,927 AR-180s between October 1970 and February 1974. ​

In mid-1968 ArmaLite set up pilot production in its Costa Mesa plant. ArmaLite produced 1,171 AR-18s and 4,018 AR-180s at its Costa Mesa plant between July 1969 and June 1972. The Japanese government subsequently eased it restrictions and allowed the commercial, semi-automatic AR-180 to be exported to the U.S., and by the late 1970s U.S. production halted.​

In order to concentrate full effort on the military sales program, ArmaLite elected to discontinue its other commercial firearm activities. In mid-1973 ArmaLite sold the AR-7 rifle to Charter Arms. ​

The Japanese restrictions on export of the AR-18 and AR 180 forced ArmaLite to move the production machinery to a new licensed producer. In 1974 Sterling Armament Company of Dagenham, England, was licensed to produce ArmaLite’s rifles. It took 15 months to complete setup and begin production. ArmaLite imported the Sterling rifles into the U.S., and Sterling and ArmaLite both tried to market the rifles around the world. Sterling manufactured 12,362 AR-180s between the 1975 and 1983, when ArmaLite and Sterling were both sold. 10,946 AR-180s were exported to the United States. ​

The AR-18 was highly regarded, but didn’t find the favor that it could have. Even as ArmaLite marketed the new small caliber rifle, FN and HK were selling more traditional 7.62mm rifles around the world. Colt was selling AR-15s. The AR-18 remained somewhat prone to breakage, and never enjoyed the success ArmaLite expected. ​

The AR-18, however, has proven to be another seminal weapon from ArmaLite. A number of later rifles, including the problem-plagued L85 (UK), the more reputable SA-80 (Singapore) and the new G-35 (Germany) were derived from the AR-18.​

With the floundering of the AR-18, ArmaLite’s owners elected to sell the company. In 1983 ArmaLite was sold to Elisco Tool Manufacturing Company, of the Philippines.​
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AR-18 select fire (1963-65)

AR-180 semi-auto
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Just as the AR-16 is basically a sheet metal version of the AR-10, the AR-18 is a sheet metal version of the AR-15.
The AR-18 was an effort to correct the 1959 mistake of selling the AR-15 to Colt’s. As the AR-15 became successful, ArmaLite needed a rifle that could compete in the same market.
The AR-18 is a .223 caliber, gas operated, 6.9 pound rifle equipped with a folding stock. It is capable of both full and semi-automatic fire.
The AR-18 uses steel stampings instead of alloy forgings, this simplifying manufacture and greatly reducing production costs. The main functional differences include the use of a Tokarev style sliding gas cylinder under the handguards that avoided violating the Stoner gas system patent that was sold to Colt’s Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company. The new system had the advantage of keeping powder residue out of the action. The second difference was the use of dual operating springs on rods in the upper receiver, which allowed the stock to fold to the side.​



AR-180B (2001-present)
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The lower on ArmaLite®'s new AR-180B™ is made of a high strength polymer, and features the trigger group and magazine well of the AR15®, so it uses standard AR15® type magazines and repair parts are readily available.
The upper is formed sheet metal like the 1st Gen AR-180™ and features the AR-180™ gas system to keep operating gasses outside the receiver. The 19.8" chrome moly barrel features an integral muzzle brake and ArmaLite®s exclusive adjustable front sight base.
The AR-180B™ is a .223 caliber, gas operated, 6 pound rifle equipped with a fixed stock and is semi-automatic.
The new AR-180B™'s upper and lower receiver groups are interchangeable with those of the 1st Gen AR-180™, so earlier models may now be repaired by replacing the upper or lower half.
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Sourced from:

http://www.armalite.com/library/history/history.htm
 
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