What is a good grouping for a 9 mm pistol?

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I'm curious,

My best 2 shot group have been holes touching each other,

my best 5 shot group have been about little over inch and half wide and about inch tall.

both standing 2 hands modified stance(one foot in front of the other) and no support at 10 yard.

I think that's pretty good, but what is really "Good group" when it comes to pistols?

What should I strive for? is basically what i'm asking.

It's fun to shoot for accuracy, but I tend to rapid fire when i'm at range, so i'm trying to focus on accuracy, and strive for better groupings.

this was using Norc NP29.

Thanks for info.
 
The best grouping depends on many factors. The gun, the ammo, the shooter. A loose fitting gun will shoot larger groups than a close fitting gun ( Usually ).
I have read test results of a SIG 210 shooting 2" groups at a 100 yards. I have read of other pistols that cannot do this at 10 yards.
I would suggest trying a few different makes of ammo to see what your pistol prefers, shoot from a rest to eliminate most variables and that should tell you what THAT pistol is capable of.
 
ok, let's discount anything beyond 25 yards.

my indoor range only goes that far.

and I also tried shooting it rested on sand bag. i must not be doing that right because it's uncomfortable as he11. :(
 
Don't want to be a negative nancy, but the results of a two (2) shot group is pretty much a fluke. Five (5) shots is much better for evaluating your results, but ten (10) will tell you the most.

If you can keep it within an inch and a half with a 10-shot group at ten (10) yards, you're probably shooting better than 90% of handgunners. There are no shortage of people who think a 10 inch group at 25 yards is awesome. Personally, I'd be inclined to say a 2 inch group at 25 yards is something to aim for. Anything tighter than that is just fantastic.
 
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Don't want to be a negative nancy, but the results of a two (2) shot group is pretty much a fluke. Five (5) shots is much better for evaluating your results, but ten (10) will tell you the most.

If you can keep it within an inch and a half with a 10-shot group at ten (10) yards, you're probably shooting better than 90% of handgunners. There are no shortage of people who think a 10 inch group at 25 yards is awesome. Personally, I'd be inclined to say a 2 inch group at 25 yards is something to aim for. Anything tighter than that is just fantastic.
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challenge accepted.
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:D

might take me a while to work up to 25 yard though. :p

i'll first try for 2inch 10 shot group at 10 yard. (but then i have to change mags for the last shot... sh1t.)
 
Ambidextrous shooters?

since we are on the topic of accuracy, any of you on here that shoots as good with their weak hand and weak eye combo?

I try to shoot with my left side combo as much as my right, but it groups much worse and i have tendency to shoot much to the right using my weak side.

i think it's my grips, but not sure.
 
I can shoot pretty much the same left or right handed, left or right eye. At 10 yards on a good day I can put 10 rounds through a 2 inch hole. My range only goes to 17 yards and my best group at that distance was 4 inches, once lol, I was pretty stoked.

An inch and a half 5 shot group at 10 is nothing to complain about, and is better than most people can do. As you get further away, the shortness of a handgun starts to make things open up unless your hands are very steady, mine aren't, as a small movement will cause big changes downrange.

For a good comprimise between speed and accuracy, one round every second is a good rate of fire. If you can land them in the 10 ring at that rate at anything beyond 10 yards, you are doing pretty damn well
 
3"-5" groups at 25 yards seems like a reasonable standard of acceptable mechanical accuracy for a typical 9mm auto pistol:

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=99921

As far as shooting unsupported goes, keeping all your shots inside the -0 zone (8" circle) of an IDPA target at 25 yards will put you ahead of most of the pack. If you're really good, you should be able to do the same with the head box (6" x 6" square) of the target.
 
Tactical vs Marksmanship.

A) Are you trying to be a bullseye shooter and want to put a 2in group at 25 yards?

or...

B) Do you want to be able to quickly put 0 zone shots on target on various ranges at speed?
 
Buy a bunch of 6"paper plates at grocery store or dollar store and shoot at them starting from 7 meters or so. Then move away our move target away and if you can hit the plate from 25m consistently you are doing pretty good. Keep practicing and move even further.
 
aquadorhj said:
I'm curious,

My best 2 shot group have been holes touching each other,

my best 5 shot group have been about little over inch and half wide and about inch tall.

both standing 2 hands modified stance(one foot in front of the other) and no support at 10 yard.

I think that's pretty good, but what is really "Good group" when it comes to pistols?

What should I strive for? is basically what i'm asking.

It's fun to shoot for accuracy, but I tend to rapid fire when i'm at range, so i'm trying to focus on accuracy, and strive for better groupings.

this was using Norc NP29.

Thanks for info.
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If your shooting 1"-1.5" groups at 10 yards that's a "really good group" already in my opinion man. Especially if you tend to rapid fire!

Nice job!:)
 
"One of the Swiss military specifications was that the service pistol had to be equally usable unmodified for competitions at 50 meters as its predecessor, the Swiss Parabellum 06/29, chambered in 7.65x21.5mm. The target was a Swiss C50 at a distance of 50m (54.68 yards), with the 10 ring a disk of 5 centimeters, just under 2" in diameter. SIG zeroes the P210 with Swiss military issue ammunition with a point of impact placed 10cm above the point of aim in order to allow a six o’clock hold on the standard target. SIG zeroes the pistols individually and in most cases installs a front sight marked with the letter N. This sight has a post 5.9 mm tall. Each pistol had to produce groups under 5 centimeters with match quality ammunition. Despite being handicapped by the tapered case 9x19mm Parabellum ammunition, inherently less accurate than the bottlenecked 7.65x21mm Parabellum, the P210 readily achieved its design brief. This is attested for every pistol by an enclosed test target fired at that distance with standard ordnance ammunition from a dated lot."

From:
http://larvatus.livejournal.com/33732.html
 
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