what is THIS?-Argy Mauser

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Picked this up at the Landsborough auction cuz it looked funny and rare and unusual and original and complete and all that other crap....

........and now I cant find a damn thing on it......

Any help appreciated----Im just gonna flip it to the most needy .;

and....its listed as a .308/762....could that really be?....shouldnt it be 7.65 Argentine?
 
Looks like one of the early rifles that Argentina cut down and sold off to one of the surrounding South American countries.

On many of them, they ground off their own crest and rolled on the crests of the country they were making the sale to.

I saw one at the Chilliwack gunshow a few weeks ago with a Peruvian crest.

I looked it up in the 2nd edition Mauser Military Rifles of the World by RWD Ball and the a similar rifle to the one you have in your pic is in the Peruvian section.
 
Yep, Argentinian M1891 sold to Peru, and cut down into a carbine around 1912. Have a look around the barrel shank for an 'S.J.G' mark - some of these were rebarrelled with new SIG made barrels.

I think I've read somewhere that these carbines were for the Peruvian Navy.
 
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Finally the @%*#$ transfer went through on this rifle and....

It has NO identifying marks other than a serial number...

Were some scrubbed?....why?
 
It's certainly a Peruvian M1891/12 carbine. Peru made these from cut-down M1891 rifles bought in 1901/1902 as the Argentine Contract was drawing to a close. It's not really "scrubbed" on purpose, but many of these had only lightly stamped crests and when they were refurbished in 1912, sometimes the crest was buffed off in the refinishing process. If you look closely, there is probably some faint part of it left - they were not purposefully removed.

The crest should look like this (taken off my 1891/12 rifle - your carbine would have been identically marked):

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PS: Yes, your carbine should be chambered in 7.65x53 Argentine Mauser. These are covered in Ball's 4th and 5th editions of Mauser Military Rifles of the World under the Peru section.

It should also have a SJG "SIG" marked barre las stated above. On mine, the stamp is below the woodline - maybe on yours too.
 
Can you post closeup pics of the receiver side wall and the front ring? There's really only the one possibility for an 1891 action with a lange-visier sight, but it could just be overly scrubbed from conversion to carbine.
 
Klunk said:
Finally the @%*#$ transfer went through on this rifle and....

It has NO identifying marks other than a serial number...

Were some scrubbed?....why?
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I've seen them both ways. Crested and scrubbed. Maybe it was taking to long to roll the new crests onto the receivers. I wish I had bought the rifle in Chilliwack but I decided to pick up a bunch of Kar98 snipers instead.

So many fine rifles/handguns, so little money.
 
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