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Any one recognize this?

The pin is not captured in the 2.5" copper sleeve and behaves like a free floating firing pin.

ID of hole in the copper sleeve is .220" and does not taper
OD of Firing pin is .115 at small end

The sleeve was confirmed to be non ferric with a magnet.

The brass flange is dovetailed to the copper sleeve and does not move.

It turned up in a pile of stuff from a retired gunsmith somewhere in Western Ontario.
No hints and nothing in the box that look remotely related


Is it a firing pin or something else?

If it's a firing pin what is it from?

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Thanks,

M
 

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Sunchild2071 said:
For a WAG, maybe some other angles (both ends)? What was it found(?) amongst, or have you had this for awhile? One bonded piece, or can it be dissassembled?
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The pin is not captured in the copper sleeve and behaves like a free floating firing pin.

It turned up in a pile of stuff from a retired gunsmith somewhere in Western Ontario.
No hints and nothing in the box that look remotely related


2nd image added to OP.


M
 
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Anyone?

Some sort of gunsmithing gizmo or something for a lathe or mill?

The copper piece is perplexing. When was copper last used for anything mechanical?

M
 
bearhunter said:
To my eye it resembles one of the sleeved type firing pins on some Gatling Guns
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Gatling gun, now that's something that didn't occur to me?

It comes apart and it sure looks like some kind of firing pin. I posted more pics on the OP.

M
 
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I have no frakin clue, but it looks like the one part is kind of like a valve ####. Does it turn? Do you know what part I mean?

I'm guessing it doesn't.

I'm also guessing that someone is rolling in their grave laughing, with this hidden away for years, maybe decades, to give to the world as a final WTF upon discovery, after their passing.
 
I like to think things out based on what they are made of.
- the pin is steel, so strong and able to mark, punch and/or make a hole
- the pin head is brass maybe, so less likely to mark what is hitting it but easier to mushroom, but prevents the steel pin from being mushroomed
- the tube looks copper, something easy to machine, but won't take the stress of the the pin head bashing on it.
- the brass part on the side looks good to be held with a pliers or to prevent the tube from going any deeper.

I doubt if it is a firing pin. I looked up old Gatling gun pins and they had the extractor attached on the side, did they not?

My WAG is a home made primer remover or pin remover: something where it could be placed in the right spot, the copper tube being the right diameter, held via the side flat with a pliers, and gently tapped with a brass hammer to do the job.

I know I have seen the older folks, people form a different mentality of "do it yourself", make a "one off" custom tool to do a single job.

... but as you said, just a WAG.
 
Pellet sizing dies

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Aniest said:
I like to think things out based on what they are made of.
- the pin is steel, so strong and able to mark, punch and/or make a hole
- the pin head is brass maybe, so less likely to mark what is hitting it but easier to mushroom, but prevents the steel pin from being mushroomed
- the tube looks copper, something easy to machine, but won't take the stress of the the pin head bashing on it.
- the brass part on the side looks good to be held with a pliers or to prevent the tube from going any deeper.

I doubt if it is a firing pin. I looked up old Gatling gun pins and they had the extractor attached on the side, did they not?My WAG is a home made primer remover or pin remover: something where it could be placed in the right spot, the copper tube being the right diameter, held via the side flat with a pliers, and gently tapped with a brass hammer to do the job.

I know I have seen the older folks, people form a different mentality of "do it yourself", make a "one off" custom tool to do a single job.

... but as you said, just a WAG.
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The first offerings of Dr Gatlings invention didn't need extractors as they used muzzle loaded chambers (aprox. 1861-66), each with their own nipple and they simply fell out of the machine thru a hole in the bottom of frame after firing. That being said I have never seen any reference to a gatling gun firing pin with a flat tab welded to the side of a retainer, the ones I have seen have more of a "lug" style of "return catch".
 
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