what is this?
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My wild guess would be a mauser(no bolt cutout) modified to fire russian ammo
and using a mag from a russian machine gun. They were desperate for guns at the start of the war and armourers probably made all sorts of field modifications.
The mag might not even be removable. The great thing about milsurp is the story behind the rifle, and there is definitlely a story behind that photo.
and using a mag from a russian machine gun. They were desperate for guns at the start of the war and armourers probably made all sorts of field modifications.
The mag might not even be removable. The great thing about milsurp is the story behind the rifle, and there is definitlely a story behind that photo.
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It looks like an old school touched up pic to me too
Bittermansbro
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Hard to place, but the shadow and light looks off. It may be a reflection, can be hard to tell from old B&W's. And it does look awfully like an FG42 mag.
I can't *possibly* imagine the Commies shopping pictures to give the Germans the idea that they were more heavily armed than they were!
It would be inline with that kind of propoganda
I can't *possibly* imagine the Commies shopping pictures to give the Germans the idea that they were more heavily armed than they were!
It would be inline with that kind of propogandaIt is definitely NOT one of the WWI long magazine extensions for the Gew. 98 rifle. I have one of those, and it is nothing like this. This looks far more like some type of MG mag, likely ZB, grafted on. Would be a lot of fun at a pin shoot!
Numrich arms have been reproducing these 20 round, Mauser, Gew 98, magazine that was used by the germans during the WW1 trench warfare.
However, the picture of this particular magazine suggest it to be from a czech ZH 29 rifle ? The copy of the original 20 round, Mauser magazine, as found in the "Numrich" catalog, looks somewhat different.
However, the picture of this particular magazine suggest it to be from a czech ZH 29 rifle ? The copy of the original 20 round, Mauser magazine, as found in the "Numrich" catalog, looks somewhat different.
The magazine on this rifle is, as has been shown, from a ZH-29.
It is nothing at all like the First World War extension magazines for the Gew 98. With the Gew 98 rifle, the magazine box itself is built inside the frame of the rifle. What the extension was, was a box equipped with its own spring and follower. This box had a lip on the top. You REMOVED the spring and follower, along with the floorplate, from your Gew 98 rifle, clipped them together with the little spring clip that came as part of the kit, and stuck it in your pocket.
The magazine box that you now fitted slipped on the rifle, replacing the original floorplate. You with drew a small crosskey and the follower slammed upward to the feed rails, which are part of the frame. Now you opened the bolt and stripped in either 15 or 25 rounds. The so-called "20-round magazine" was really a 20-round EXTENSION of the existing 5-round magazine within the rifle. The so-called "10-round magazine" was in fact a 10-round EXTENSION of the rifle's built-in 5-round magazine.
OUT of the rifle, either extension was not suitable for carrying ammunition around in: no lips at the top to retain the cartridges, AND a very long, rather strong spring. But they workedreally well when on a rifle.
An old friend of mine escaped from the Stalag in Germany in 1918 and spent 5 months wandering through the middle of the Russian Civil War. When he gave up to the retreating Germans and was escorted (drunk, courtesy of Fritz) all the way back to heilsburg, he recalled seeing some of the extended magazines on the German rifles at that time. According to what he could remember, they were already being withdrawn from german service in the Spring of 1917, when he was on the Western front.
The German extension magazines were made by Bing of Nuremberg, a toy manufacturer who marked their magazines with a B over N and a horizontal line separating them, and by an unknown manufacturer who marked theirs with a J.
Hope this helps.
It is nothing at all like the First World War extension magazines for the Gew 98. With the Gew 98 rifle, the magazine box itself is built inside the frame of the rifle. What the extension was, was a box equipped with its own spring and follower. This box had a lip on the top. You REMOVED the spring and follower, along with the floorplate, from your Gew 98 rifle, clipped them together with the little spring clip that came as part of the kit, and stuck it in your pocket.
The magazine box that you now fitted slipped on the rifle, replacing the original floorplate. You with drew a small crosskey and the follower slammed upward to the feed rails, which are part of the frame. Now you opened the bolt and stripped in either 15 or 25 rounds. The so-called "20-round magazine" was really a 20-round EXTENSION of the existing 5-round magazine within the rifle. The so-called "10-round magazine" was in fact a 10-round EXTENSION of the rifle's built-in 5-round magazine.
OUT of the rifle, either extension was not suitable for carrying ammunition around in: no lips at the top to retain the cartridges, AND a very long, rather strong spring. But they workedreally well when on a rifle.
An old friend of mine escaped from the Stalag in Germany in 1918 and spent 5 months wandering through the middle of the Russian Civil War. When he gave up to the retreating Germans and was escorted (drunk, courtesy of Fritz) all the way back to heilsburg, he recalled seeing some of the extended magazines on the German rifles at that time. According to what he could remember, they were already being withdrawn from german service in the Spring of 1917, when he was on the Western front.
The German extension magazines were made by Bing of Nuremberg, a toy manufacturer who marked their magazines with a B over N and a horizontal line separating them, and by an unknown manufacturer who marked theirs with a J.
Hope this helps.
