What militaries still use these cartridges?

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7.62x25TT?
7.62x54R?

Once the current supplies of these two are exhausted, will there be any more surplus coming to market or has everyone moved away from these cartridges? I know some people have been talking about a 7.62x39 shortage but at least there are still many militaries that use these.

Are there any commercial makers of these two sizes? Or are we just going to have to find some way to reload the old military brass?
 
dangertree said:
7.62x54R still widely used by former Warsaw Pact countries, Russia, etc.

Basically wherever we use 7.62x51, they use the 7.62x54R.
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OK cool, so that means that I don't need to go and grab whatever remaining cases I can find right? ;)
 
Doesn't matter whether there are enormous supplies. What matters is whether they will be available for sale. The UN is pushing hard to eliminate any trade in surplus arms. You cannot count on anything being available in quantity at a reasonable price. I can remember when 7.62x39, 7.62x25, 7.62x54R, 6.5x55 were just plain difficult to obtain. Surplus stocks come and go. Don't assume that there is a bottomless well from which to draw.
 
tiriaq said:
Doesn't matter whether there are enormous supplies. What matters is whether they will be available for sale. The UN is pushing hard to eliminate any trade in surplus arms. You cannot count on anything being available in quantity at a reasonable price. I can remember when 7.62x39, 7.62x25, 7.62x54R, 6.5x55 were just plain difficult to obtain. Surplus stocks come and go. Don't assume that there is a bottomless well from which to draw.
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I wonder what the UN proposes to do with surplus stock :rolleyes: Maybe I should tell them I'll take it off their hands!
 
TheIndifferent1 said:
I wonder what the UN proposes to do with surplus stock :rolleyes: Maybe I should tell them I'll take it off their hands!
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the UN would rather war-torn dictatorships over which they exert little control have the surplus arms and ammunition. As long as it does not make it to countries where they actually have something of a charade-like influence do not get them is their self-imposed mandate.
 
When the two Germanies reunited, a vast amount of ex-DDR materiel was scrapped, including SAA. Some countries will export it, some won't. You cannot assume that surplus ammunition will be available. As far as that goes, essentially all ammunition used in Canada is imported. A government hostile to private ownership/use of firearms (anyone come to mind?) could easily cut off the supply.
 
dangertree said:
^Venezuala.


Columbia however just bought 700 20" Stag-16, and the US gave them a million rounds of 5.56. :)
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That's it, thanx, I always get the South American countries mixed up. :D
 
yup surplus is a thing of the past anytime now when the UN sign this thing it will be impossible to sell surplus or more to the point the UN will buy and destroy it all
 
How close is this UN agreement to becoming a reality? Does anyone have a link on it? I have some friends in the US that should hear about this.
 
"...dictatorships which they exert little control..." Other than their own until the next revolution. The Third World Debating Club is full of them.
"...any commercial makers..." Yep. The 7.62 x 54R is loaded by a few commercial makers. Not necessarily the big boys though.
 
So take a hint, and buy all you can afford when you see it cheap.

I used to buy lots of ammo in the US, when we used to be allowed to (US export restrictions). I wish I bought a lot more now, I'm running low on 303.
 
Calum said:
I believe Columbia bought 10 million rounds of 7.62x39, and a huge shipload of AK's a few months ago.
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Actually, Colombia (notice spelling plz) did not. Their neighbor, Venezuela did. As an interesting aside, Venezuela manufactures their own ammo, the one caliber they do not make is 7.62x39. The guerrillas in Colombia use that caliber.
 
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