What monometal bullets....

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Good day, I want to start reloading in the new year, especially for my new to me Ruger no1 9.3x62 and I was wondering what is the best monometal/monolithic bullet for lower velocity cartridge like the 9.3(2300-2400fps) to make sure there is full expansion?
I read that as the bullet goes up in weight(250-286gr in this case) lesser velocity is required to achieve full expansion, some say 1800 or maybe even lower.....
So my question is is there a difference between let say Barns TSX and TTSX and Hornady GMX(these are the 3 I am familiar with) in terms of expansion?
 
I am interested to hear replies to your question. Although not sure that I follow the business about wanting "slow velocity", "expansion" and "mono-metal" all together. I chose to load 250 Accubond and 286 Partitions in my 9.3x62 - no complaints, yet... For both of those weights, the boxes say "Optimum Performance Velocity" "Minimum: 1800 fps" "Maximum: unlimited". I worked up to the loads published by John Barsness - my Shooting Chrony says 2,650 fps with the Accubonds and Varget powder, and 2,475 fps with the Partitions and Big Game powder.
 
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Potashminer said:
I am interested to hear replies to your question. Although not sure that I follow the business about wanting "slow velocity", "expansion" and "mono-metal" all together. I chose to load 250 Accubond and 286 Partitions in my 9.3x62 - no complaints, yet... For both of those weights, the boxes say "Optimum Performance Velocity" "Minimum: 1800 fps" "Maximum: unlimited". I worked up to the loads published by John Barsness - my Shooting Chrony says 2,650 fps with the Accubonds and Varget powder, and 2,475 fps with the Partitions and Big Game powder.
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Maybe I didn’t used the right phrasing(lost in translation lol). When I say low velocity I refer to a lower velocity than what we are used to these days with the “super magnum”.
I’m total newbie when it comes to reloading, so I hope I will be able to find a good load that works good in my rifle that will have a higher velocity than the factory ammo available. I really like the monometal bullets lots, I’ve been using them in my 30-06’s almost exclusively and with really good results!! And I would like to continue using them in my 9.3x62 but want to find out if there is some that are better than others or if they are pretty much all the same!!
 
Perhaps you will want to refine what you think the purpose will be?? A 9.3x62 is not an 600 yard elk rifle - many better choices, if that is what you are after?? Higher velocity sounds good, but for what purpose?? The German settlers in Africa were dealing with lions to elephant with the 9.3x62, and I am thinking their 1920's 286 grain rounds struggled to get to 2,200 fps. More recently, well documented that Dr. Don Heath was taking lions to elephant quite handily with, apparently, commercial loadings of 9.3x62 (through to 1970's?). If you are currently happy with your 30-06, sounds like it suits your purpose?

There are definitely lots of over-lap in today's line-up of cartridges, so no real reason to try to "shoe-horn" a loading into doing something that it is really not suited for?? For example, probably a 160 grain Partition from a 7mm Magnum of some version would be better choice for 600 yard elk, rather than 9.3x62? But 9.3x62 might be better choice for 1,000 pound moose at 175 yards? Just guessing... I have never taken an elk of any size at 600 yards, nor have I taken a moose at any range. But I did grab my 9.3x62 and some 250 Accubond when I had a good black bear in my back yard in early October - if I had to shoot it to protect wife or dog, I did not want any wondering "if" it was going down... But at 50 feet or less, I doubt there would be much to chose from among the 170 grain 30-30, the 180 grain 30-06, or several others - the 9.3x62 had just been sighted in and was handiest...
 
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My 30-06 is doing just fine for moose and mostly harvest them I side of 150m! The 9.3x62 is for bison mainly and for sure inside 200m. Anyway, my question was regarding using copper bullets in that rifle and wanting to know if there was a model/brand that mushroom better in the lower velocity round that the 9.3x62 is!?!? I’m not wanting to make the 9.3x62 something it isn’t, and I know the history of the caliber quite well hence my choice for buying that rifle! My goal in reloading for that caliber is to make possibly better ammo for cheaper and not having to special order ammo all the time and at a premium price, cause up here we are really limited to what we can find(only one gun shop and there price on ammo is ridiculous compare to down south)
 
My 2 cents... forget the monometals in your 9.3. The 9.3X62 does very well at ranges from muzzle to 300 yards with standard C&C bullets... if you want to step up for stout game, the Partition is ideal... I have the same rifle as you aswell as a couple others and performance with C&C bullets on game has netted same textbook mushrooms and classic pass-throughs with 1" exit holes... quick deaths and little meat loss... I don't think mono's can offer much more than that. Specifically, for most applications I use the Speer Hot-Cor 270 SP (2459), I have also loaded the Partition 286 SP and used them on a couple large bears and a bull moose.
 
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hoytcanon said:
My 2 cents... forget the monometals in your 9.3. The 9.3X62 does very well at ranges from muzzle to 300 yards with standard C&C bullets... if you want to step up for stout game, the Partition is ideal... I have the same rifle as you aswell as a couple others and performance with C&C bullets on game has netted same textbook mushrooms and classic pass-throughs with 1" exit holes... quick deaths and little meat loss... I don't think mono's can offer much more than that.
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Agree wholeheartedly.

DGY, PM sent.

Ted
 
hoytcanon said:
My 2 cents... forget the monometals in your 9.3. The 9.3X62 does very well at ranges from muzzle to 300 yards with standard C&C bullets... if you want to step up for stout game, the Partition is ideal... I have the same rifle as you aswell as a couple others and performance with C&C bullets on game has netted same textbook mushrooms and classic pass-throughs with 1" exit holes... quick deaths and little meat loss... I don't think mono's can offer much more than that. Specifically, for most applications I use the Speer Hot-Cor 270 SP (2459), I have also loaded the Partition 286 SP and used them on a couple large bears and a bull moose.
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I’ve done the same with my 375. I saw no benefit to mono metal inside 200yds.
 
Hey David... here is an interesting bullet test done right here in the Yukon by a giant guy called Phil with the help of Why Not.
https://forum.nosler.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=33382

Moderate velocity round like the 9.3X62 has a lot of bullets that work. The 250 TTSX would expand well at the ranges you are discussing. I like a good bonded lead and copper bullet better at this velocity range but the Barnes will work.

Greg

Oh yes here is another great resource on bullets and game out of New Zealand.

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/9.3x62.html
 
Takujualuk said:
Hey David... here is an interesting bullet test done right here in the Yukon by a giant guy called Phil with the help of Why Not.
https://forum.nosler.com/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=33382

Moderate velocity round like the 9.3X62 has a lot of bullets that work. The 250 TTSX would expand well at the ranges you are discussing. I like a good bonded lead and copper bullet better at this velocity range but the Barnes will work.

Greg

Oh yes here is another great resource on bullets and game out of New Zealand.

https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/9.3x62.html
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Thank you Greg
 
Why not? said:
Stay far, far, away from the Hornady 286gr bullet.

Ted
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Sound advice.

No need for monos in a 9.3, bonded bullets or standard cup and core will work. Moose, bison and bears have been added to my freezer using Norma Oryx bullets, and a bull caribou recently tipped over to a Nosler Partition.
 
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