What part of an AR15 is restricted?

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Is it the upper or the lower?

If someone got a piston-operated upper, that would clearly not be an AR15 right? And as such it would be non-restricted?

And then when we make those beta mags for the 7615 there's no problems taking it outdoors right?
 
The lower (or receiver) is the restricted part. The upper is just "parts", it's not a gun at all.

It really doesn't matter what magazine you make for the 7615, it'll always be limited to 5 rds. The problem is that Remington stated that they made the gun in a fashion so that it took AR15 mags. Not 7615 mags. So.. no matter wether the mag says AR15 or 7615 it's still an AR magazine according to both Remington and the RCMP.

I wouldn't hold your breath for Beta-C mags in the AR. It is quite possible for someone to make a rifle in .223 and then make their own proprietary 30 rd mags for it that "are not AR15" mags. But there's no way the Beta-C people are going to make a 100 rd mag for a bolt action rifle just so Canucks get to buy them.
 
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Luckyorwhat said:
Is it the upper or the lower?

If someone got a piston-operated upper, that would clearly not be an AR15 right? And as such it would be non-restricted?

And then when we make those beta mags for the 7615 there's no problems taking it outdoors right?

lower

wrong - it is a varient

get questar on it...he seems to work magic

Boltgun
 
Luckyorwhat said:
Damn

damn

10 rounds better than 5

Ya but a Beta C-mag dedicated as a pistol only mag would be hard to pass I think. You would need big guns to hold that big gun:D and not the milk kind

Boltgun
 
Luckyorwhat said:
Is it the upper or the lower?

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If someone got a piston-operated upper, that would clearly not be an AR15 right?
It's just an upper. An AR15 upper. Useless without the lower.

And as such it would be non-restricted?

Uppers aren't controlled. You still need the lower to operate it. Anything that can be made to attach to an Ar15 Upper and have it fire would be classified an an AR15 variant.

And then when we make those beta mags for the 7615 there's no problems taking it outdoors right?

No.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78219
 
Luckyorwhat said:
What about the Ferret single-shot bolt-action .50 upper that can fit on an AR lower?
you can take the upper any ware you want.
you need an ATT for the lower, even if it dosnt have any parts in it at all.
what you need to understand is it dosnt matter what you do to it, the lower is, and always will be, the part that is the "fire arm", and thus needing a ATT and being restricted.
 
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You guys might find this link interesting. ;)

http://www.questar.ca/deals/LAR15_mag.htm

The best part is that, because of the way our Canadian law is worded it's the magazine that determines the capacity, not what the magazine is eventually used in. The LAR-15 10 Round Magazine can have a 10 round capacity regardless of the firearm you use them in... If you own an AR pistol or an AR rifle then you now have access to 10 round legal magazines.


Read the printing on the mag!
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"...Read the printing on the mag!..." The printing on the magazine means nothing. If it goes into a semi-auto, centre fire, rifle, it can't hold more than 5 rounds.
"...What about the Ferret..." What about it? The lower has the serial number. That's the part that is registered.
 
yeah and the rcmp agreed with questar. Now we just need some gun maker to make a pump or bolt action with its own propietary mag that just happens work in an AR-15
 
I know a member who has a .50 Ferret with a lower that the RCMP "de-restricted".
The lower can only be used (legally) with the Ferret upper. I would not have thought it possible -- but I've seen the reg cert.
 
KevinB said:
I know a member who has a .50 Ferret with a lower that the RCMP "de-restricted".
The lower can only be used (legally) with the Ferret upper. I would not have thought it possible -- but I've seen the reg cert.

Is that the lower with the solid magwell? I remember seeing something like that posted a few years back.

Throttle_monkey1 said:
yeah and the rcmp agreed with questar. Now we just need some gun maker to make a pump or bolt action with its own propietary mag that just happens work in an AR-15

Dlask makes 20 and 30 round mags for its pump action AR15 lookalike... perhaps that would be a good place to start. They won't fit an Ar15, wonder if you can mod the mag to fit or does a person have to mod the lower?
 
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sunray said:
The printing on the magazine means nothing. If it goes into a semi-auto, centre fire, rifle, it can't hold more than 5 rounds.
Actually, it means everything.

Those aren't AR15 magazines, they are pistol magazines.
 
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