What red dot for a pistol - 11mm rail ?

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My new .22 airpistol PP750 is in the mail, now I have only couple days to figure out how to aim with it. ;(

I have Hyperopia, or farsightedness and cannot see my fingers and not an iron/pistol sight, using glasses for aiming/reloading is just messing up my game.

For my FX Impact (air rifle) I got the SigSauer Romeo7, works great also have a 6x power magnifier (currently back to Sig for warranty repair), but these are picatinny mounts.
Also have a spare TenPoint crossbow scope but that one is a fixed 3x also not sure for parallax if shooting extended hands.

What red dots you guys using with 11mm rail?

Let me ask here first for a proven model.
 
Whatever optic your eyes get along with, then use 1 or 2 of the little UTG 11mm to Picatinny adapaters. They're great. Very solidly made little things which add a tiny amount of height to your optic mount. This place has them, but then so do a lot of online stores. Watch out for cheaper knock-offs though, some not very good copies on eBay.

https://www.canadashootingsupply.ca/utg-11mm-3-8-dovetail-to-weaver-adapter-2pcs.html
 
I just realized my typo mistake.
I have a red dot for my rifle and I am happy with it, serving a purpose up to 50 m well.
But now I would like to get a lower profile - reflex sight for a pistol. I am aware of don't expect much for a parallax but at least the optics to be on level.
 
Well the lowest red dot sight I know is a Burris Fastfire III. There may be lower. I know there are several pretty similar, what seem to be copies like the one from Leupold. Hard to imagine a dot sight getting a lot lower than a Burris. I use one with very little riser height on a collapsible stock conversion of a QB57, not all that different a configuration compared to your PP750 (a pistol I'm considering buying) in terms of how my cheekbone relates to the top of the airgun. I tried initially with a higher base for the Burris dot sight but cut it down as it was just not letting me settle into the rifle properly. Hope I'm understanding the question now...
 
Yes we are on the same track.
On my Impact I have a 1" raiser plus I mounted a high red dot and I have a very comfortable cheek position, also with my other long range scope I don't need to wind the turrets to much.
The PP750 is way lower power and I assume only a lower profile reflex may track the trajectory better, and I am planning playing freehand...will see. That PP750 looks like a nice winter project.
Only thing I didn't expect to pay as much for the reflex sight (in contrast to my Sig red dot), because I have no powderburners, only airguns. Both convenience and more fun.
 
Indeed, lots of tinkering to be done with the PP750. I came across this thread the other day and it rekindled my interest in the thing:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=170095.0
Looks like making a new cocking lever is essential as the supplied one is doomed to snap off soon. And some tweaking here and there besides. If I get one I'll put in a tightly fitted permanent block such that it can't quite collapse so far, to stiffen the stock rods against twisting. And of course the crown needs polishing. Rather ugly as supplied.

The Impact has a very tall scope mount position. That was one element I just couldn't get past while considering buying it. I really like almost everything else about the Impact, but considering I do a fair bit of very close range pesting, I just can't see enjoying such a high scope and the resulting intersection between line of sight and pellet path at such distances. Beyond 20 yards or so it makes a lot less difference and I can see loving the Impact out at 50 to 100 yards, but with such a high scope position I'd be counting inches of holdover at close range, struggling to find out where to aim on a squirrel's head as it moved between 5 and 10 yards... That's already too difficult with the big 5-35x MTC Viper Pro scope I have on my QB78D, so I tend to go for a more compact, low power airgun generally, one where the scope is super-low.
 
For a close range mount the red dot, for beyond 50 or 70 there is a scope.
Getting back to that lever I have a concern as well, for a right handed why is the cocking lever on right side? On my Impact I moved the lever to left side.
Same with a computer keyboard...you move thing around with a mouse and need to let it down to type in the numbers, because the keyboard numpad is on right side....for left handed you can work with a mouse and numpad in the same time simultaneously.
So the cocking lever will be most likely my very first thing to take care anyway.
 
I have a vector or victor optics... 30mm red dot sight on my HW 45 Silverstar.

I have an astigmatism, and the dot is small and crisp.. Has a outer ring that quite nice. Alot of cheaper optics, the dot are all commas or dots too big.. I find tube optics very quick and easy to align.

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But if you wanted something more profile.. A Bushnell TRS25, with a adapter. Or Hawke makes a TRS25 style, with a dovetail base, so no adapter needed.
 
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OkayShooter said:
I have a vector or victor optics... 30mm red dot sight on my HW 45 Silverstar.

I have an astigmatism, and the dot is small and crisp.. Has a outer ring that quite nice. Alot of cheaper optics, the dot are all commas or dots too big.. I find tube optics very quick and easy to align.

But if you wanted something more profile.. A Bushnell TRS25, with a adapter. Or Hawke makes a TRS25 style, with a dovetail base, so no adapter needed.
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How is the eye relieve works? any parallax errors? of course you won't notice much @ 10 meters but let say 30-40?
I have a SigSauer Romeo7, works perfect on the rifle but is huge for a pistol
Astigmatism may be acceptable with some red dots but ones you mount any magnifier the image gets distorted...regardless of astigmatism or not.
 
bigHUN said:
How is the eye relieve works? any parallax errors? of course you won't notice much @ 10 meters but let say 30-40?
I have a SigSauer Romeo7, works perfect on the rifle but is huge for a pistol
Astigmatism may be acceptable with some red dots but ones you mount any magnifier the image gets distorted...regardless of astigmatism or not.
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Eye relief is unlimited. As long as you can see the dot, that is where it will shoot. I don't think you can solve Parallax 100% with red dot sights, you'll always have some. According to Vortex.

All red dot and holographic sights will exhibit some small amount of parallax. Matching current industry practice, this small amount would be considered “parallax free” and will make a negligible difference in the Venom’s performance.
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The minute difference it makes for what I shoot, I won't see the difference. I shoot my CZ SP01 9mm with a Vortex Venom out to 50M

But the TRS25 is suppose to be Parallax Free. But this is where marksmanship principal and grip plays a huge part. Training muscle memory, so you line up everything the same.
 
I recommend Holosun. I have 2 and prefer them over either my Burris or Vortex. You will want a 1 moa dot and try to shoot with both eyes open. Have fun shooting.
 
Edit:
Let say I would like to attach some picture to my own thread or else,
and I don't want to use a third party service for Url,
do I am missing something? some buttons? or this is a forum rule as is?
I am not considering myself oldfashioned, but I cannot do...to much work for nothing.
 
It seems that a paid membership is required to enable uploading images of any significant size. I found that even editing an image down to a tiny resolution and filesize, I'd still get an error message saying it was too large. So I just do what I've done for 20 years with various forums - I put a copy of an image I wish to share on my own website in a /forum/ folder and then use IMG tags with the link between the open and close tags to post the image. No CGN server bandwidth gets used to show them, it's all on my website server, so no foul committed. Just like using IMGBB or some other free image hosting provider... except I pay about $200/year for the privilege, with my own business website and private email going along for the ride.
 
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