What system(s) of measurements did the Russians use?

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I'm confused with the Russian Rifles: :wink:

The sight is in Arshins (Russian)

The bullet calibre is 7.62X54R (Metric - millimeters)

Did they use the English system too? What about the 91/30's made
by...was it Remington, what system did they use?
 
Yes the Russian used arshins, which translates to 'steps'.

Originally they didn't call it a 7.62x54r, that came later. When the M1891 was developed it was known as a 'Three-line rifle' Many people mistakenly believe this meant three lines used it (Infantry, Dragoon and Cossack) because of the length differences in their rifles. Three line however was the calibre where one line was approx 0.1 of an inch, three lines being .3 or 30 cal

Not sure exact dates, but arshins were dumped in WWI or just after at which time the metric system was adopted there.

Remington made M1891s during the first world war, they didn't make 91/30's which were a soviet upgrade in/around 1930.

I have a Remington 1917 which has the metrics on it, no stamped out arshins, so either they had changed by 1917 to metric or the Finns replaced it at some point.

Hope that helps.
 
One other thing, what type of threads are used on a Russian Rifle (Metric, English,
or Russian whatevers?)

Ex: Say like the tap and die used for mounting the scope, or any other threaded screws and holes that they used - what was the desination?

What does "Ivan" ask for at the Russian House of Tools and at Moscow Tap, Die and Fastener Store?
 
Bittermansbro said:
Yes the Russian used arshins, which translates to 'steps'.

Originally they didn't call it a 7.62x54r, that came later. When the M1891 was developed it was known as a 'Three-line rifle' Many people mistakenly believe this meant three lines used it (Infantry, Dragoon and Cossack) because of the length differences in their rifles. Three line however was the calibre where one line was approx 0.1 of an inch, three lines being .3 or 30 cal

Not sure exact dates, but arshins were dumped in WWI or just after at which time the metric system was adopted there.

Remington made M1891s during the first world war, they didn't make 91/30's which were a soviet upgrade in/around 1930.

I have a Remington 1917 which has the metrics on it, no stamped out arshins, so either they had changed by 1917 to metric or the Finns replaced it at some point.

Hope that helps.
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There's no such thing as "Arshins". It's One Arshin, two Archini
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OK you guys :shock: 2 minutes in the box, for knowing too much stuff :lol: :lol:
 
Claven2 said:
There's no such thing as "Arshins". It's One Arshin, two Archini ;)
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*ahem* well I like my 'arshins' just the way they are. :lol:

koldt said:
OK you guys 2 minutes in the box, for knowing too much stuff
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I know, its just plain sick! sick I tells ya! Stupid milsurp hobby ended up leading to other more geeky pursuits. :oops:

smellie said:
I think they made the switch to metric in about 1929.
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Yea, sometime after....my smarts dump off about the 1920's until WWII and then dump off after that altogether.

Coyote Ugly said:
One other thing, what type of threads are used on a Russian Rifle (Metric, English,
or Russian whatevers?)

Ex: Say like the tap and die used for mounting the scope, or any other threaded screws and holes that they used - what was the desination?

What does "Ivan" ask for at the Russian House of Tools and at Moscow Tap, Die and Fastener Store?
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Good question, sorry I don't know the answer to that. And I think they called it the Hammer & Sicle House....I don't think they used any other type of tool. :lol:
 
So Russian screws and tapped holes on the rifle are metric threads?

Now what about a Russian Vodka bottle, are those pipe threads or metric threads on the cap and bottle, or none of the above! :wink:
 
Soviet Russia gradually switched to metric system during the 1923-25 period.
As for vodka, I never really thought about it concentrating rather on the three determinants that define good vodka - lack of colour, lack of odour, and lack of taste! :lol:
 
Just to sweeten the pot...my 1869 Swiss Vetterli has the rear sight graduated in "schritt" which is Swiss for pace(s).
So phonetically it is a bit of a chuckle when you accompany the three...

"An arshin , a schritt , a yard" (Say it with a Scottish dialect to boot.. :lol: :lol: )

... did I mention I've been sniffin' a lotta bore cleaner lately. :wink:

Cheers
Jaguar
 
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